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Chatterbox: Down to Earth

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Continued from the other post: It was getting WAY too long. Now: as I was saaaaying, I'm not trying to bicker, Im trying to help clear up the lie (evolution) that the government is trying to teach us. You know, it used to be illegal for evolution to be taught as fact in public schools. Now, a teacher can be fired for presenting both sides of the argument, for and against.

submitted by Emily L., age 13, WA
(August 13, 2008 - 12:42 pm)

I have no idea if the Bible is that old. The Iron Curtain was a phrase used to describe the separation between the free and Soviet countries during the Cold War, in the 1950s. The numbering system of years was started by Gregorian monks, who renumbered all the years in their history to follow the death of Jesus. The Jewish calendar is at year 5768, and the Chinese calendar is at about 2600 years.

submitted by Vendy, age 16, Museica
(September 4, 2008 - 9:56 pm)

Scientist are not Evil. I'm not saying they are. They were taught Evolution and beleive it, too. BUT: to them, there is no other possible explanation for the origin of the universe than it. So they have to try to make everything match up. They must believe Evolution, no matter how implausible, because they think there is no other explanation.

submitted by Emily L., age 13, WA
(August 14, 2008 - 6:54 pm)

first, evolution has nothing to do with the origin of the universe or life. Second, Science proves things by trying to disprove things. That's real science. In fact, it's CREATIONIST who have to try to make everything match up. They must believe CREATIONISM, no matter how implausible, because they think there is no other explanation.

submitted by The Man For Aeiou, age 12, Museica
(August 15, 2008 - 10:33 am)

YES IT DOES!!!! Evolution tells us cells came together by chance in a warm pond! And that that is the origin of life! Do you not know the theory that you beleive in?

submitted by Emily L., age 13, WA
(August 15, 2008 - 1:32 pm)

i'll Quote a science editor I know:


123. Robert Coontz (Administrator)  |  April 8th, 2007 at 1:38 pm

We try not to oppose anyone’s views, but we do try to correct misconceptions. For example, many people seem to think that evolution is supposed to explain the origin of life. It isn’t, and it doesn’t. When people say things that are simply untrue, I’ll sometimes (but not always) step in to correct them.

As for critics of evolution, I’m fairly familiar with what they are saying. (They send me all of their press releases.) Most of the arguments I’ve seen boil down to statements of the form “I can’t imagine how X could possibly be true; therefore, X can’t possibly be true” (where X = things like “the gradual development of a complex organ like the eye” and “the emergence of life from random chemical reactions on early Earth”). That doesn’t impress me very much. After all, I can’timagine the size of the universe that astronomers have discovered, but I don’t go jumping all over astronomers and calling them incompetents and frauds and demanding that they discover a more comprehensible universe for me. I let them be astronomers.

The same goes for evolution. As I’ve said, 99+% of biologists and paleontologists think in evolutionary terms. Anyone planning to work in those branches of science needs to understand evolutionary theory, and anyone who wants to understand what scientists do needs at least a passing familiarity with it. That’s why I think it needs to be taught in school–and, judging by the evidence I’ve seen both on this blog and elsewhere, taught better than it’s being taught today. As for teaching the other side: as I explained above, there isn’t an alternative theory to teach–just a hodgepodge of “I can’t imagine” criticisms that aren’t much help to people trying to understand the world. Maybe one will come along someday, but no one has proposed it yet. 

submitted by The Man For Aeiou, age 12, Museica
(August 15, 2008 - 4:17 pm)

Nice resource. :) I think that's pretty solid stuff.

submitted by Vendy, age 16, Museica
(September 3, 2008 - 7:15 pm)

Creationists are not evil. I'm not saying they are. They were taught creationism and believe it, too. BUT: to them, there is no other possible
explanation for the origin of the universe than it. So they have to try
to make everything match up. They must believe creationism, no matter how
implausible, because they think there is no other explanation.

submitted by Emily L., age 13, WA
(August 14, 2008 - 6:54 pm)
submitted by Vendy, age 16, Museica
(September 3, 2008 - 7:14 pm)

I fullhaertedly, 100%, Totaly,completly agree with Wendy. I think you're the one thats brainwashed here, Emily. Not Wendy.

submitted by Mayr s, age 11, new york
(August 17, 2008 - 2:52 pm)

Emily, evolution is NOT a lie!!!  And the government is not "teaching" us it.  Charles Darwin DISCOVERED it!!!!  The government is flawed though.

submitted by Hannah R., age 13, New York
(August 14, 2008 - 11:39 am)

How did he discover it????? What proof did he find?????

submitted by Paige P., age 12, Gorham, Maine
(August 15, 2008 - 6:05 pm)

He found a lot. read On the Origin of the Species, and the Decent Of man.

submitted by The Man For Aeiou, age 12, Museica
(August 17, 2008 - 2:18 pm)

As more proof that the Earth is young: The sun is shrinking by two feet an hour. That's no problem, the sun is about a million miles in diameter. But it's a problem for Evolution. Only 250,000 years ago, the sun would have been double its present diameter. It would have been too hot on earth for life to exist. And 3 million years ago, the Earth would have been touching the surface of the sun. Evolution contradicts the first law of thermodynamics, the second law of thermodynamics [entropy] the law of cause and effect, and the law of biogenesis [that means life comes from life] . Creation agrees with all those laws.

submitted by Emily L., age 13, WA
(August 15, 2008 - 2:04 pm)

OK first off this is turning into a bickering fight. Everyone needs to calm it down a few notches. We need to stop trying to prove people wrong. Instead we should just try to support sides fairly and with thought and fact. Like the comment about BC and AD. BC does mean "before christ" but AD is Latin for "in the year of our lord". And later scientists found that it wasn't acurate. Also when you say all the proof is in the bible it's not really proof. The Bible is really only 2,000-ish years old (the oldest parts are maybe 5,000). If you disagree then think of it this way: 15,000 years ago was an ice age and early man. 10,000 years ago was Mesopotamia (they were polytheistic). Around 4-7 thousand years ago the Egyptians popped up and during the height of their reign Jews (which are a race) came about. Then came the whole Old Testament. Then came Jesus. And many years after his death (like 60) the New Testament was written down. THEN it was changed over and over again as time went on. So really the Bible is no more acurate than scientists' tests. That is why it can't be taken as hard proof. HOWEVER there are some things "proven". Like the great flood was written about in many different religious texts. And the plagues were documented in Egypt (I think-you may want to check me on that). Evolution is not a lie or false or going against the laws of nature. It is just another revolutionary idea (like gravity!) that will take time to accepted. Although it is awfully fun to argue about it here!

submitted by Wendy C., age 15, Ohio
(August 15, 2008 - 3:26 pm)

It's pretty obvious that you don't beleive the Bible, because you beleive Evolution.  But: aside from being translated, there have not been any changes to the Bible. And most of the new testament was written just after His death.

submitted by Emily L., age 13, WA
(August 15, 2008 - 8:42 pm)

I Belive in the blble, Just so you Know. evolution is not disprove in god. 

submitted by The Man For Aeiou, age 12, Museica
(August 17, 2008 - 2:19 pm)