~ANIMAL THREAD~

Chatterbox: Down to Earth

~ANIMAL THREAD~

~ANIMAL THREAD~

Ahh, I've been wanting to make this thread for a while--since before Chinchilla's pet thread, actually. I don't know why I haven't made it yet...XD

This thread isn't your average pet thread; instead of posting about our pets, (which you can totally do here, I don't mind), we'll share and compare our knowledge of our pets!

Wait, I just confuzzled myself. 

Here's what I meant: 

Tips, stories, interesting information, as long as it has to do with animals, it's welcome here!

So...let the posting begin!

submitted by Micearenice, age DonchaKnow, Up in the Air...!
(August 23, 2016 - 1:03 pm)

Opinion: Cats are the weirdest yet funniest pets.... Mine likes to lick the edges of plastic bags. Not like, grocery bags, but plastic plastic bags. She is wacko.

Tip: Keep a watergun handy for spraying at the neighbor's pets when they try to get in a fight with yours. If you're near. Our neighbor's cat is a jerk. He comes into our backyard just trying to fight with our cat, who never ever goes looking for trouble and once 'defended' our driveway from two big dogs. Good watchkitty.

submitted by Leafpool
(August 25, 2016 - 3:22 pm)
submitted by Top
(August 26, 2016 - 11:11 am)

All right, I'll list my pets, then general tips and info that I've picked up from observation about that species.

Bearded Dragon (we named ours Liz): Bearded Dragons are EPIC pets! Does anyone else have one? 

Once, many, many moons ago, the fire alarm went off. Of course, my siblings and I raced from our rooms, tripping over everything and making a generally good amount of noise. Dad came upstairs, called the false alarm, and we went back to bed. The next day, Liz got sick. I tried to make him feel better in any way possible, which included, strangly, me dumping the contents of my water glass on top of him and massaging his scaly back. So, he actually liked the water; I could just tell. 

A few days later, a pet store worker told us the sudden loud noises affected Bearded Dragons, and water helps them feel better! Imagine that!

Moral of story: Fire alarms are unpredictable. 

A flock of chickens (all named after rocks and minerals): I KNOW that with so many of you someone has to have chickens. They really aren't all that uncommon these days! So, I need some advice. WHAT do I do with a "peckasious" rooster? He attacks us and pecks and scratches us rather violently for a young rooster. So far, I've been having to fight him back (with a stick as my sword and a trashcan lid for my shield). How can I drill into that comb-adorned head that I am not an enemy? 

Moral of story(ish): Trashcan lids are useful.

A GOAT!: All right, I admit. Starlight the goat is my favorite pet (don't tell Amethyst I said that! That chickiedoodle adores me). She's almost two months old, so were trying to get her on solid food, but she likes the milk bottle so darn much! Any advice? Oh, and people say that goats can't be trained like dogs. Uh...yes they can! Starlight comes when she is called, never leaves home unless told to (we leave her freely outside pretty much all day, and we don't have a fence), and is generally a sweet thing. 

Moral of this story(ish): Goats are under-rated.

A bun-bun (named Thumper): Thumper and I are having trouble bonding. Any ideas???

 

submitted by Rose bud, age dreaming, My head
(August 26, 2016 - 1:47 pm)

All right, I'll list my pets, then general tips and info that I've picked up from observation about that species.

Bearded Dragon (we named ours Liz): Bearded Dragons are EPIC pets! Does anyone else have one? 

Once, many, many moons ago, the fire alarm went off. Of course, my siblings and I raced from our rooms, tripping over everything and making a generally good amount of noise. Dad came upstairs, called the false alarm, and we went back to bed. The next day, Liz got sick. I tried to make him feel better in any way possible, which included, strangly, me dumping the contents of my water glass on top of him and massaging his scaly back. So, he actually liked the water; I could just tell. 

A few days later, a pet store worker told us the sudden loud noises affected Bearded Dragons, and water helps them feel better! Imagine that!

Moral of story: Fire alarms are unpredictable. 

A flock of chickens (all named after rocks and minerals): I KNOW that with so many of you someone has to have chickens. They really aren't all that uncommon these days! So, I need some advice. WHAT do I do with a "peckasious" rooster? He attacks us and pecks and scratches us rather violently for a young rooster. So far, I've been having to fight him back (with a stick as my sword and a trashcan lid for my shield). How can I drill into that comb-adorned head that I am not an enemy? 

Moral of story(ish): Trashcan lids are useful.

A GOAT!: All right, I admit. Starlight the goat is my favorite pet (don't tell Amethyst I said that! That chickiedoodle adores me). She's almost two months old, so were trying to get her on solid food, but she likes the milk bottle so darn much! Any advice? Oh, and people say that goats can't be trained like dogs. Uh...yes they can! Starlight comes when she is called, never leaves home unless told to (we leave her freely outside pretty much all day, and we don't have a fence), and is generally a sweet thing. 

Moral of this story(ish): Goats are under-rated.

A bun-bun (named Thumper): Thumper and I are having trouble bonding. Any ideas???

Moral of this story(ish): Bunnies do not like carrots.

 

submitted by Rose bud, age dreaming, My head
(August 26, 2016 - 1:48 pm)

Whoa, cool story about your bearded dragon! I had no idea about either of those things--that's really interesting.

We have a BUNCH of chickens, and we have had a few evil roosters over the years. Our first was a silver laced Wyandotte named Roger. He was so sweet a chick. When he grew up, he was so mean that he'd fly up into our face, attack us, chase us, and overall, try to destroy us. Let's not go into detail about that, though--long story short, he was simply aggressive.

Now we have another mean rooster named Foghorn Leghorn. As you can probably guess, he's a young white leghorn. He's having trouble with the fact that we go invade his pasture every day. He's a cowardly rooster, too--he attacks while our backs are turned. He hasn't gotten his spurs in yet, but his talons still hurt.

Whenever he gets aggressive, I hit him with a bucket (or my foot, whichever is closest), as hard as I can. If he comes back for more, I just do it again. I know it doesn't feel right, hitting your own chicken, but if he doesn't learn that you are able to fight back, he'll just get meaner and meaner. (Some roosters can't help it--they're naturally aggressive. I haven't had a ton of experience with this, but my theory is that, if caught early and dealt with the right way, aggression in a rooster can be gotten rid of effectively, with minimal to no more outbreaks of roosterly anger later in his life.)

Foghorn hasn't attacked anybody as of late--but we haven't done the chickens today, so he might break his good streak. Oh, and stay tuned--I have another rooster story coming up shortly.

Aww, you have a baby goat, too! Hand-feeding her must be hard...I haven't had experience with hand-raising baby goats, so I probably won't be much help here. Our goat Paula Dean had a baby this year, whose name is Amber. (Thankfully Paula is a good mother...Amber is big and strong now.) She's so cute, and she likes to play with our two lambs, Butter and Cookie. (The lambs' mothers are named Milk and Honey. Can you guess which lamb is whose? XD)

Hooray for bunnies! I have a rabbit named Taco...who used to be really picky. (Not anymore! He's decided that grass and swiss chard taste good, after all.) He loves to be held like a baby, eat veggies (but not rabbit junk-food! He's a health nut! I tried getting him hooked on some treats so I could train him, but he was having none of it. Literally.) If you want to bond with Thumper by means of food, maybe try giving him some sugar-free cheerios? (Best not to get him hooked on the sugary kind, if he does end up liking them. :) ) Maybe lettuce...Or kale...Or khol rabi (however you spell it!)

You could watch movies with him...If he's not too fidgety, like Taco is. Or you could try and invent a game that he likes. Moonfrost has a rabbit named Pancake who likes flipping stuff over--maybe build off habits that Thumper has? (He finds it quite riveting, I suppose. Watching gravity work is what he does best!)

To be honest, I had a little trouble bonding with Taco myself. Time, in the end, was really what helped.

I wish you luck with weaning Starlight! I'm sure you'll go out there one day and she'll be eating grass with relish. Oh! I just had an idea! Maybe you could take her to a grassy spot and pretend to eat grass with your hands. She might try and copy you! I remember that when Amber was a baby she'd just taste the grass, until she was ready to start eating it.

submitted by Micearenice
(August 26, 2016 - 4:29 pm)

@Rose bud, I'm sooo sorry that I can't help you, but my only experiances with roosters were when I was 6 or 7.

I would like to know though, if any of y'all can help me with this problem ...

So we got two new chickens. (Who won't let me pet them. *glares at them*) We were origanally getting two eggs a day. Then my mom told me to reduce their food amount because she thought I was giving them too much.

But, after I had done that, Evy (the larger hen) was the only one laying eggs. So I watched them eat for a bit once when I was taking care of them one morning. I discovered that Evanlyn was not worthy of the name she had.

Evy eats insanely fast, and uses her behind to occasionally shove poor Ruineth out of the way. 

So, my question is ... How do I make sure that Ruineth is getting enough to eat? (I gave them more food this morning, so we'll see how that goes.) 

submitted by Cho Chang, Sobbing my heart out ...
(August 27, 2016 - 7:27 am)
Hi, Cho! Congrats on your new chickens! I'm sorry they're so unfriendly. :( I might have a solution to their food problem; do you mind if I ask a few questions?
What kind of feeder do you use for your chickens? Also, how much outdoor space do they have to roam in? How much food did you give them before; how much are you giving them now?
We fill up the cylindrical kind of feeder with food for our chickens, and they'll just eat until they're full. They're free ranged, though, so they have plenty of room to burn off their calories. If your chickens are free-ranged, it doesn't matter how much food you give them--they'll eat until they're full, then go off to do their chicken-y things. If they're not, that poses a problem, because (well, if this is the case, you know this already, because it's why you're giving them less food) they eat when they're bored, or if the food is so tantalizingly close to them they just can't help it.
But, if the osprey problem has persisted, and your chickens are sticking to the safety of their coop, then here are a few ideas to help Ruineth get enough food:
--Change the type or placement of the feeder so that both chickens are able eat at the same time, one on each side.
--Add an extra feeder so that they don't have to be so close to each other while they eat
--Give them treats during the day in separate piles so each one has its own spot to eat (I suggest doing this in conjunction with one of the above.)
I hope this helps! 
submitted by Micearenice
(August 29, 2016 - 1:45 pm)

They aren't unfriendly ... just shy. XD

Thanks for the advice! Just to let you know, feeding them more is working, and the osprey hasn't been seen for a while. (for now)

But we also use a cylindrical feeder, the only problem is that Evy eats her food so darn fast. They have a ton of space for two, as well, about 6x20 ft. (that's a rough approximet)

submitted by Cho Chang
(August 31, 2016 - 2:32 pm)

You didn't tell me that, Cho! (and we named the bigger one Ruineth, not Evanlyn)

And so sorry that I can't help, Rose bud. My only experience with roosters was when I was 3-4. I remember that we had two roosters and they fought each other a lot, so we had to put down one. The other was Mr. Redlegs. (a Buff Orpington that was named for - Surprise! - his red legs.)

submitted by Coconut the dog, age I forgot, In the bed
(August 28, 2016 - 9:28 am)

Here's chapter one of the rooster story I mentioned earlier! (I wrote this last week, and the events were from the Friday of the week before that, so this is not the most recent Friday that I speak of, but the one before it.) 

CHAPTER ONE: AN EMERGENCY 

On what must've been Friday morning (of last week), one of our roosters (who has no name yet--but will soon) got his feet stuck in the side of a wire portable chicken coop. We go out to do the chickens every afternoon, and that was when we found him. He'd been hanging there all day.

We were really confused when we saw him because our chickens have been living in harmony with that cage for months and nothing like that has happened! Deciding it was a freak accident, we unhooked him from the sides of the cage. We thought he was dead, but as we pulled his toes out of the wire, he moved, just a little!

Dazed, dizzy, and worn out, the rooster dully glanced around with his one eye. (He is blind in one eye.) He was alive, all right. We set him on top of the rain-tarp that covered half of the portable coop. He was in bad shape.

He needed to rest, and get away from the rain. Unfortunately, I couldn't care for him right away because we had already planned a trip for that night--and wouldn't return until Saturday evening. I carefully laid him underneath the plastic slide we sometimes use to get over the electric fence, (which was not in use right then, thankfully), and gave him some water and food. We didn't know if he was just dazed, or what. If he was just worn out, he'd be better by morning.

When we returned from the trip, I expected him to be either up and about, or dead. Well, what I got was sort of a mix of the two. He was alive, but not up and about. He'd hobbled over to a dip in the meadow, about five yards away from the slide, and was laying there in pain.

As I mentioned before, we hadn't returned until late Saturday evening. I had no time to cook up a plan to get this rooster healed--it was chores, a shower, and bedtime. All I could do was put him back under the slide, and tend to him as early the next morning as I dared.

Sunday morning, he wasn't looking good. But I'd done a bit of research and found a cool idea for a hammock-type thing that would keep the weight off of his legs while still allowing them to touch the ground. Before I built it, however, I needed to take an inventory of the problems going on with him.

His left leg, the leg that had taken the most strain from when he was hanging upside down, was a bit stretched out. I couldn't tell if it was broken or not--but I did know that if it was snapped, the break would be above the hock, possibly in his hip.

His right leg was stiff, but it was in the correct position for a rooster laying on his side--I wasn't too concerned with that leg. As I experimented with his leg movements, the rooster stayed absolutely silent. Not a good sign.

Things were looking...medium, shall we say. Not good, but not exactly bad, either. His comb was oozing a little bit of blood, but that was probably from the pressure of being upside down.

It was when I found the little cluster of yellow-orange worms that I got a little nervous...They weren't maggots; I have no idea what they were. They might've been eating the dust off his feathers; I don't know, but I snipped them off with scissors and that was that.

Honestly, I wasn't sure if the rooster would make it or not. I wasn't sure there was any hope for him. But I wanted to try and heal him. There was a tiny chance he'd live.

After the worm incident, I made him a hammock as fast as I could, clamped it up so that it hung inside a tote, and put the tote, complete with water and food for the rooster, back underneath the slide. Then, as weekends are (unfortunately) our busiest time of the week, we had to go to the store. Which took like two hours. By the time we got home, I barely had enough time to take care of my other animals before it was time to eat dinner and take a much-needed shower. That night, I wondered how my rooster was faring. He was officially my project; my patient. It was my job to make sure he lived through this--I was his only hope.

The next morning I went out to the chicken pasture to check on him. He was alive; that was good. I decided to move him closer to the house; the garage proved sufficient in both shelter and calm atmosphere.

However, as soon as I lifted him from his makeshift hammock, I realized that I'd made a mistake by not making a hole in the back side of it. Just a quick glance at the hammock--and the rooster--told me that a better sling would be needed.

I rushed inside and quickly fashioned him another hammock--this one with plenty of room for his rear.

I don't know what I was thinking, though. I didn't wash him off or anything as I settled him back into his tote. It was a display of irresponsibility that he and I would both pay for the next day.

Of course, it was Monday, which meant school. By the afternoon, my brain was tired of algebra and grammar and piano practice. I checked on my rooster, and offered him some water. (He'd had a bowl of water in his tote all day, but to my surprise it was full as it had been that morning! I hadn't realized that he couldn't reach it. Another thing to add to my 'things I learned on Monday' list--make sure your patient can reach their water bowl!) After a good, long drink, he appeared to be feeling much better. I was glad that my newly-improved hammock was working the way it should, and I discovered that if I pulled his left leg up into the hammock so it didn't touch the ground, it would both lean him closer to the water and completely immobilize the leg--ensuring that he wouldn't injure it any more by moving it.

As we do every afternoon, Moonfrost and I went to do the chickens after I completed that check-in. Strangely enough, we found a pile of buff-colored feathers near the porable coop of the rooster incident. Hmm. Perhaps it wasn't so accidental that the rooster had hung himself up after all.

My thoughts wandered back to Friday. We'd had company over, and they'd gone to the store that Friday morning. They'd seen something unbelieveable on their way out, which they shared with us over lunch.

Suddenly it clicked. Things made sense now.

The fox our grandparents had seen Friday morning had to be to blame. 

submitted by Micearenice
(August 29, 2016 - 1:59 pm)
submitted by Toooop!
(August 30, 2016 - 3:46 pm)
submitted by Top&ComeReadTheStory, plz! :)
(August 30, 2016 - 6:59 pm)

Thanks for the advice Y'all! And chickens like old cornbread and rice. A lot!

Micearenice, we haven't had problems with predators yet, but we probably will. Please give us more updates on your rooster!

submitted by Rose bud
(September 3, 2016 - 12:50 pm)

Okie, here's the rooster update:

CHAPTER 2: I DO THE UNTHINKABLE

Warning: Things get a little gross up ahead! Don't worry, I'm not going into details or anything. But if you get queasy really easily, I reccommend skimming over the next two chapters...

That's right, we always knew it would happen sooner or later. The fox had, unfortunately, been sighted with its kits about a month or two ago--it was only a matter of time before one, or all, of the babies found what they saw as their own personal Chick-fil-a. It hasn't been proven yet, but seeing as we found a dead duck last week, too, the events looked pretty suspicious. It made sense--If a fox was on a rampage, the rooster would've panicked, and possibly gotten stuck in his rushed  flurry to safety.

We'll be on watch for more feathers.

Meanwhile, Tuesday morning had a surprise in store.

I was adjusting the rooster in his sling when I saw a horrific sight--a maggot. Crawling in his sling.

Wow, if you'd been there, you'd have felt the air drop five degrees as my whole body froze.

I groaned. Why, oh why, hadn't I cleaned him off the previous day?

Maybe I could wash them off. That would be easy.

I tentatively carried him to the hose pipe, snatched two latex gloves from their box, slid them on, and got ready to rinse him off.

Some things are easier said than done. I thought that maybe the little pests had been eating the mess created the previous day--if that were the case, they'd be able to get rinsed off relatively easily.

Nope.

He must've cut himself a tiny bit while struggling on that cage, or maybe one of his pin feathers got ripped out, and I didn't notice because it was all on his stomach, where he had lots of fluffy feathers covering the wound up. In any event, while I hadn't noticed the wound, the maggots certainly had. Even though I was able to rinse a ton of gross things off of him, there were always still a few more of those annoying fly larvae leftover in the wound.

I then did the unthinkable. I...*violent shudder* actually tried pulling them out with my fingers. (I HAD GLOVES ON, THANK GOODNESS!) Don't worry, I wasn't at it for long. It didn't really work, because the maggots had created a barrier of protective sludge around themselves as soon as the water hit them. I gave up pretty quickly.

Well, the rooster was really cold by then, and I was feeling hopeless, so I put him back in his tote (without the nasty sling, which I'd thrown away) and did some research.

I was thrilled to find that there was indeed a way to get rid of maggots in a safe, animal-friendly way.

Here's what the internet suggested I do:

1. Rinse wound with running water.

2. Wash with antibacterial soap.

3. Irrigate with a mixture of iodine and water.

4. Apply SWAT or FLYS OFF to kill the remainder of the maggots and help the wound heal.

5. Give the chicken a strong antibiotic like baytril.

6. Increase nutrition and keep the chicken away from all flies.

Hmm...Too bad I didn't have any antibactrial soap, iodine, SWAT, or baytril. I did have hydrogen peroxide, however, and I intended to make the most of it.

I set the rooster up in a sunny patch in the backyard and began to spray hydrogen peroxide on him. It fizzled all the leftover dung away, which was good. The maggots...not so much. Nonetheless, I squirted and squirted it until I felt that I'd done enough. I dried him off and sprinkled food-grade diotemacious earth on his stomach for good measure. Then it was school time.

He'd been really quiet the whole time I cleaned him--and had hardly struggled. Either way, he was showing a small bit of improvement. Even though he was cold, he looked a little more alert than he had the day before. I felt a glimmer of hope. The idea of giving him another sling was discarded, however, as I was already late enough to school already and had no time to make one, and I didn't want anything giving the maggots another chance at infecting his skin, such as a nice damp old shirt turned into a sling.

After I finished school, which was around one o'clock or so, my mom suggested a mixture of apple cider vinegar and water to splash on the rooster. I was already planning on rinsing the poor guy again, and when I added the three-parts-water, one-part-vinegar to the afflicted spot, it seemed to work! I think it actually made the rooster more perky, even though it appeared to sting him.

I treated him one more time that day and went to bed happy, thinking that maybe he would survive, after all! He was starting to walk easier. He could stand and limp around.

 

CHAPTER 3: I DECIDE THAT I DON'T LIKE SURPRISES

Wednesday morning, I went out to see if the previous day's treatments had worked, and that was when I noticed something greenish underneath his left leg's feathers...

You won't believe what I saw.

Surprise, Mice! There's another wound on his left thigh that you missed! There are nasty little MAGGOTS inside it!

*Facepalm

Frantically, I told my mom about the problem. She made an ointment with healing oils inside to replace the FLYS OFF, let me use some watered-down dawn soap to replace the antibacterial soap, and I made some more apple cider vinegar water to replace the iodine mixture. We now had everything on the list, or at least the equivalent of it.

I rushed outside to my workspace, determined not to let these maggots be the downfall of the rooster who was healing so well.

First I rinsed the wound. It was nasty.

Next, I washed it with dawn. That helped a little, although the maggots could've cared less.

My mom helped me by holding the rooster down, who was getting better at walking and refused to lay on his side for long without a towel over his face. I sprayed more hydrogen peroxide on the wound and watched it fizzle.

I had to do something about those maggots next. I then did yet another unthinkable thing: Tweezers in hand, I plucked them out of his leg, one by one. Those that retreated out of my reach underneath his skin found themselves drowned with apple cider vinegar water. Nasty though it was, the treatment was working. When we finished, I rubbed the healing ointment over the remaining hole. No more maggots were in sight.

I decided to take a look at the other wound, the one on his stomach. To my complete, utter, horrible disappointment, I saw a maggot crawling around on it. I automatically assumed that there were more and completed the whole, newly-improved treatment on it with a sinking heart.

I sprinkled diotemacious earth on both spots, and more was put inside his bedding. He was given food and water, along with some veggies.

I had to wait until the afternoon to do the treatment again. The rest of the day was spent stressed and slouching, until I was finally able to check him out again.

To my complete, utter joy, I found exactly ZERO maggots!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yaaaaay! He went through the treatment anyway, though, because the wound needed to be cleaned a lot.

Thursday was great; the rooster had started making the occasional rooster sounds the previous day and was an expert at balancing now. He was eating a lot, and I gave him a beetle. He was preening himself with ease, and his cleanings were reduced to one per day.

Friday--Much more noise; got to go outside and enjoy the sun; could hobble around better than the day before. He also ate a grasshopper I gave him.

Saturday: He was making tons of noise--yay! I didn't clean his wound off. I'm hoping this was the right choice--I wanted to leave it alone so it could heal, rather than keep messing with it. Weekends are really busy for us, and I had a sleepover, too.

Sunday: He was doing good on Sunday! Standing, drinking lots, even crowing. No maggots.

Monday: He graduated to the outdoors--fresh air will help him heal. Funny, he's been put in the same small portable coop that caused him all this misery. He got one last cleaning before he was put outside. 

Tuesday: (To be clear, we're in the current week now.) His limp is slowly disappearing.

Now, over this week, he's gotten so much better; he's walking fine; trying to call hens over (and falling over!); eating lots of food.

He can move pretty fast when he wants to. I'm so glad he's healing. I'll keep you posted on his progress! (He's still inside his portable coop. When I move it, I let him walk around outside. He got himself attacked by one of the other roosters on accident [I don't reccommend to any chicken sneaking into the main coop while your caretaker's not looking] but he's ok. He'll need to reestablish his place in the pecking order once he's free.)

I'll post pictures of him, if you want me to. Unfortunately, I didn't take pictures of his progress (not that anyone would want to see pictures of maggots,) but I wish I had, so I could look back and reminisce on these three weeks.

Anyway, I'll see what I can do. I'll definitely post a picture of him now! 

submitted by Micearenice
(September 4, 2016 - 9:14 am)

Thats great, micearenice! Chickens sure are an adventure! And I love them! I will try to post the baby screech owls on here that I mentioned on "future jobs". Hmm.. I can't find the photo. I have got to go, but I WILL post it later! I'm posting a pic of my ducks, on the outside of the cage is Tonks, a male, aggressive duck (who's dead; I will tell you later), then Bellatrix is the one to the far right, a bit by tonks, he's a male; then the two females that are close to each other are, from left to right, Myrtle and Narcissa. I will tell you more about them later, BUT IVE GOT TO GO! AURHG!  

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submitted by Daisy
(September 8, 2016 - 6:00 am)