@Jaybells: Made-up Langua

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@Jaybells: Made-up Langua

@Jaybells: Made-up Languages Chat Thread!!

Here's the thread you suggested! So nice that you like to make up languages and worlds too! I've invented a lot of countries, but only one language - it's supposed to be spoken by an imaginary tribe of Native Americans...

I've heard of Tolkien's languages - I think it's so amazing that he actually finished making them up. I'm still not done with mine! I wonder what it would be like to learn Elvish.

submitted by Poinsettia, age whatcareI, Narnia
(September 25, 2022 - 1:55 pm)

> Yes, so exciting!!!

> And yeah, it would be great to complete one, much less several, made-up languages. But if you think about it, can a language ever truly be complete? It constantly changes with time and culture, and- Anyway, a bit off topic, sorry.

> The tribal language concept is a cool one!! That could be a really good starting point, especially if you want to build a language first, and then a world around that! Just like Tolkien is rightfully legendary for!

> Anyway, wanna talk about our made up languages more, make up some new ones, or both?! 

submitted by Jaybells, jUsT a tAD hYpER
(September 25, 2022 - 7:51 pm)
submitted by TOPbells
(September 26, 2022 - 9:06 am)

Let's try both things! We can start with either our previous languages, or we can start with making up a new one... whichever you feel like :) I'm really sorry I haven't got time to post more today, but I'll be back tomorrow!

Oh, and yes, you're totally right that a language is always evolving to meet new needs :D

submitted by Poinsettia
(September 26, 2022 - 3:28 pm)

Yeeee! >:D

submitted by Jaybells, Lost in the Astral Plains
(September 27, 2022 - 8:52 pm)

Okay, here I am, finally. Sorry I didn't turn up yesterday after all - it's just that my mom decided I had had enough screen time for the day, so...

Anyway! What's your invented language called? Did you base it on any other languages? Mine's called Aiscuc (which is also the name of the tribe I invented). I guess the main structure of it is based on English and Spanish, but I also changed some concepts, like how to conjugate verbs. (I still haven't decided how to turn the verbs into the past tense, though.) And I think I might invent a few words which have no equivalent meaning in any other language. I keep thinking there should be a special word for this or that, like for how trees look when their branches are covered with snow in winter.

What's your language like?

submitted by Poinsettia
(September 28, 2022 - 4:31 pm)

You're good, things come up, I understand! :)

I've made a bunch of half-baked ones since I was younger, including Kuukuu luun-guuj, Zaquetzel-valian, and some more that were either really simple are terribly lacking. However, I most recently made one with the help of Hex, Flamarestii and Tsuki here on the CB called Central Sands Speak, or CSS for short (La Brakh'vat-na Makh-Khrani Shorafash or Brakh'vat-la is how you'd say it in CSS).

I really like a lot of parts of that one, but it is still fairly unpolished. :/

Also tenses. Ew. I struggle greatly with them...  But I do like the idea of creating words that don't really exist in other languages, especially of the descriptive sort!

submitted by Jaybells, Lost, somewhere
(September 28, 2022 - 9:37 pm)

Let's make a new one with everyone on this thread.

submitted by WiLdSoNg
(September 28, 2022 - 5:18 pm)

Yeah! That'd be fun!!

submitted by Jaybells, Lost, somewhere
(September 28, 2022 - 9:39 pm)

Yes, great idea to have a made-up languages thread for everyone.

Wow, Jaybells, the name of CSS (La Brakh'vat-na Makh-Khrani Shorafash!) sounds so much like a real language name. Sort of like a mix between Hindi and Hebrew. If you'd like any help with any of the concepts in it, I'd be glad to help!

Do you have any tips for remembering words after you make them up? I find it helps to write a story using them and write their meanings in the margins.

What do you like best about having your own language? I like the process of inventing it, and then being able to actually say things in it. It's kind of like building a plane and then seeing it fly. And it's very useful for talking about secret things :)

Aloho! (Aiscuc for goodbye)

submitted by Poinsettia, age words..., Lost in Languages
(September 29, 2022 - 8:13 pm)

Ahhh, this is so exciting!!!

I was indeed very inspired by Hindi, Hebrew, Arabic, and other languages I associate with the desert, since CSS/Brakh'vat-la (which basically means' big' or 'all'-languange, and is more commonly used that the longer name) was built primarily for a desert-dwelling civilization. I wanted to incorporate sounds that sounded like the shifting sands and arid climate itself, if you get what I mean!

To remember words/phrases, I have a notebook full of vocab (this especially helps if you have an alternate script, like Brakh'vat-la), where you include spelling, definition and pronunciation for each term. Then I try to make little learning exercises out of what I've made at the bottom or on a separate page, like you would in learning an actual language in a classroom: I write questions that I have to answer in the language, quiz myself of words/phrases and their uses/etc., work out grammar and sentences with what I have, practice spelling, and try using the terms in context or making new words based on the ideas and vocab that I already have. Furthermore, I also like to write stories, and I'll write a little snippet here and there, and then have a bunch of notes that add up to way longer than the passage itself detailing the nuances and stuff, similar to annotations you might do in an advanced literature class.

And yesss, it is so fun being able to talk in your own language!!! Conveying secrets or writing personal thoughts in it is so satisfying, since unless you teach someone and they spend all that time truly understanding it, nobody will ever be able to thoughtlessly read/understand like what might happen in your native tongue(s)! Also really love how I can express myself more fully, since the language is mine, and tailored to my needs and preferences. If I need a word or phrase that doesn't really exist in English, I have my own language, which you better believe has the words I need to say what I mean!  Plus, you can specifically craft a language that sounds so terribly beautiful to you in a way that organic languages may not be able to; I absolutely love it all so very much~

Watching something you've built work so fantastically, like a well-built and maintained machine is indeed such a gratifying experience!


As for you helping out with Brakh'vat-la, I would be absolutely honoured!! It would be great to get some extra insight from a fellow someone so passionate about languages, especially since I've hit a bit of a stand-still lately. I think it partly has to do with the world-building going on around the language and my uncertainty with that, which you can also get involved in if you like. :)

Please go on and discuss anything you'd like to do with CSS, and I'd also be happy to help out, or just become familiar with, your conlangs (that's the word for artificially created languages, like what we're doing) if you're comfortable!

I'll fill you in on more if you're still curious about CSS really soon in another post! <3 

submitted by Jaybells, So very thrilled
(September 30, 2022 - 8:11 pm)

Thank you so much! I'm honored that you want me to help with CSS! If you like, I could help with whatever still needs doing, and also with the world-building. It's funny that this language is spoken in a desert, because I've recently begun a story set in a fictional desert, and I was just using Luna-Wolf's character building sheet in the Inkwell to develop one of the characters!

It's really nice of you to offer to help with Aiscuc! I think most of it is finished already, but there are a few things I'm a bit stuck with - conjugating verbs, like I said, and increasing vocabulary. I still don't have that many words. Also, there's one thing that I haven't decided yet. If you want to say "it's beautiful" or "it's cold" or "it's whatever-you-like", what word should I use for "it"? Or should I just change the sentence structure altogether? Hmmm... Anyway, I'd be very interested if you have any suggestions!

There is one other thing that I'd like your advice on, although it's not strictly to do with the language. Aiscuc Native Americans still live in their traditional lifestyle even today. Although they do have basic things like toilets and stoves. I was thinking of writing a story about a girl accustomed to a typical American lifestyle who goes to stay with her aunt in an Aiscuc village. I've been trying to imagine how it would feel to suddenly start living without fast food, computers, cars, etc. I would like it, since i'm used to the idea, but it's a little hard to know how it would appear to someone else. How would it appear to you? Would you be interested, or just want to go back home?

And since you said you'd like to become more familiar with Aiscuc, here's a bit of basic vocabulary:

Aloha: Hello (yes... I got it from Hawaiian, I'm afraid)

Kota & koto: Yes & no

Silan: Thank you. Tedsilan means you're welcome, because "ted" means "you." 

And... a full sentence! Shil CB'l funichel (the CB is amazing)

Anyway, thanks for being so interested... It is so nice to get to discuss our languages! I feel like it's not something most people are into, so it's really exciting to find someone who is. :)

submitted by Poinsettia, age whatcareI, A dictionary :)
(October 1, 2022 - 11:18 am)

Absolutely!! Silan for being so interested yourself!

Here's some basic vocab for CSS:

> K(h)rani: Ground, dirt, dust, sand, land(s), origin, foundation (Named after Khrani'nah Sakhraha (Earth Deity))

> Shorah: Water, a body of water, something to drink, life energy (Named after Shoraya Sakhraha (Water Deity))

> Fashi: Air, wind, voice/breath, sky, heavens, sometimes refers to clouds or weather (Named after Fashi'yani Sakhraha (Sky Diety)) 

Those ones are really important for spiritual/religious reasons to the CSC (central sands civilization) because they are/were the main 3 goddesses, and creators of all things. A lot of the language is also built with them in mind.


> La: means big/full, and I haven't figured out a proper system of grammar yet, so I have no pattern of where to put it in the sentence :/

> Sak(h)ikh-makhra: A form of greeting, similar to "the gods allow us to meet again" or "hello." If you're meeting someone for the first time or don't intend on being warm, you can just say "Sak(h)ikh" 

> Khli Grani'ngah: Thank you; grani means to thank or be grateful, khli is a neutral polite way of saying you, the nga suffix implies a transaction or "to." Basically it literally translates to "to you, gratefulness" if that makes sense?

> Khli sakhikh'ngah: Can mean either "you're welcome,"/"how lucky" or "that's too bad"(or "I'm sorry," as long as you didn't cause the thing in question to happen) depending on context; more literally means, "for you the gods have decided"

> Khud-makhra: It's like saying "goodbye;" literally "Let's meet again." Alternatively, you could say "khud-yakh makhra" (Let's not/never meet again) if you want to express your dislike towards someone, but it's considered very rude and childish

Just a note for pronunciation, 'kh' makes kind of curled sound somewhere between an h and k, 'r' sounds are always curled unless doubled, and 'ng' is a difficult sound to make in English but is possible (think about saying "singing a" quickly to produce the "nga" sound)

submitted by Jaybells, thrill thrill thrill !!!
(October 2, 2022 - 10:40 am)

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submitted by Phoenix, age ALMOST 11!, Rising from the Ashes
(October 4, 2022 - 7:46 pm)

@Phoenix: Pig Latin's kind of fun, but dizzying to decipher! :) I wonder who invented it.

@Jaybells: Wow, the vocabulary for CSS is really well-developed, like the way the gods feature so prominently in the language. And now I'm curious - are there any priests or, well, religious institutions? It might be interesting to work out a system of worshipping - like how people pray and how the priests work, for example (if you haven't done that already!). if you would like any more specific ideas on how to continue developing CSS
or the Central Sands Civilization, just ask me!

And I can tell you more about Aiscuc in another post if you're curious to learn more about it!

Daily duties call, so I shall leave you now...

submitted by Poinsettia, age whatcareI, Narnia
(October 5, 2022 - 6:56 pm)

Heeeeelp this thread is suddenly on page 2!!!!!! This will never do. Top!

submitted by Poinsettia
(October 8, 2022 - 7:43 pm)