Dear all CBers, 

Chatterbox: Pudding's Place

Dear all CBers, 

Dear all CBers, 

I believe there are too many ski lodges. As of today (May 1), there are three ski lodges on the front pages. I see:

Ski Lodge

Ski Lodge

Ski Lodge

Greek Cafe

On the front of Puddings place. I don't want this to continue. Ski Lodges are an attack on emotional safety of many, including me, Chatterboxers. Seriously? Bloody violence and death? This cannot continue. I am calling on my fellow Chatterboxers to stop the ski lodges. You can help by not creating ski lodges, or if you do, not involve death or excessive violence.

thank you for reading this. please consider.

Regards and thanks to you all,

Golden Lion Tamarin 

GLT, many CBers enjoy ski lodges. They are presented in an atmosphere of fun mystery. We Admins aim to avoid posting excessive violence. If you don't like them, I suggest you avoid those threads and spend your time on others that are more to your liking.



submitted by Golden Lion Tamarin
(May 1, 2023 - 5:58 pm)

First, you misspelled my nickname; you put GKT instead of GLT. Second, it seems like two excessive violence to me. I may leave if this continues. And THREE ski lodges on the FIRST FOUR!

I apologize for the misspelling. I was going fast to keep posting promptly.


submitted by Golden Lion Tamarin
(May 1, 2023 - 6:25 pm)

Ah, thanks for the correction.

submitted by GLT
(May 1, 2023 - 7:34 pm)

I agree with the Admin. While I can understand your discomfort with these Ski Lodges, they're an incredibly beloved traditional post type on the CB, as common as RPs and Solowrites on the Inkwell. They've always been on the top page of Pudding's Place because people admire them, and I doubt most CBers are willing to abandon them.

Regard the CB as a library. When you don't like a how a book looks, you leave it on the shelf. If you're reading it and it makes you uncomfortable, you put it back on the shelf. Nobody made you take that book off the shelf. The same is for all stories and all CB threads. While you might not like some, nobody's making you interact/read with them. These Ski Lodges are just not your genre.

As for their violence; compared to some things school makes us read, they're quite tame. 

No need to fret, though! There are many other fun things to pay attention to on the CB, and I hope you find something else that interests you! :D

submitted by Tenebrous, age ♾, Glorious Zdroiska!
(May 1, 2023 - 6:38 pm)


Skiiii Lodges. One of my favorite things about cricket! One of the less floofy stories! Being a Stephan King/Horror fan, I have no repulsion to blood or violence what so ever. Ever though they might include killing, the ones I have read are not to graphic. And besides, even though they are murder mysteries...they are still amazing stories written by amazing people.

I personally have no repulsion to blood, and like it slightly. I mean, the first animes I watched were The Promised Neverlan, Cells at Work, and Demon Slayer. None of those are blood-less.

I just don't get why people don't like blood. I mean....It. Keeps. You. Alive. 

submitted by Reuby Moonnight
(May 1, 2023 - 6:53 pm)

Oh, about blood, I said "bloody violence" and I mean more like, violence violence, war serious server injuries death violence. I actually have no repulsion to blood in general (It does keep you alive), but I do have a repulsion when it is exiting the body due to an injury or something.

submitted by Golden Lion Tamarin
(May 1, 2023 - 7:06 pm)

Okay, GLT, I've heard you talking about this for a while, and I have to admit that as someone who actually writes one of those ski lodges, as someone who puts their time and energy into one of those stories, and as someone who just in general enjoys them anyway, I sort of struggle with your point of view. However, because I feel ski lodge authors' emotions aren't necessarily being considered here, I'd like to appreciate that and consider your emotions in turn.


Wow. None of that made sense. Sorry. What I'm saying is, I'm going to try and treat others how I want to be treated here, especially in the hopes that you mean no disrespect. I know you are a good person and are not trying to hurt my feelings here, so I do not want to hurt yours. Please, please keep that in mind, and tell me if I am hurting yours, but also try to acknowledge the people who work on these. We are real people, even if you disagree with us, and you are a real person, even if I don't necessarily agree with you. So let's talk, okay? We're all friends here, and sometimes friends… Don't agree. But that doesn't mean anyone wants to hurt anyone else, or force anyone to leave. It just means we need to explain how we feel about it and why. There's many different points of view.


I have been working on my ski lodge for a year. There are currently twenty-one parts, as well as a few mini-parts and one special, out in my ski lodge, as well as a part in progress. It is one of the things that brings me a true amount of joy and pride, especially when I'm struggling in the real world. And my ski lodge, as well as most other ski lodges, are much, much more than violence and death. My ski lodge goes into the world of emotions, and love, and finding who you are. I don't want to speak about themes of others (I can leave any other authors to talk about their ski lodges for themselves, as I feel it'd be rude to talk about theirs on my own), but many ski lodges have included humor and adventure. They're not just murder-invested stories - they're journeys, and mysteries. They're a beloved tradition many generations of Chatterboxers have poured their hearts into. 


It's okay to not like them, either! I also don't particularly like violence or gore, but Admins do work hard to make sure the Chatterbox is protected from that sort of thing, and I feel it rude to disrespect the energy they put into reviewing each comment and making sure it's safe. If you don't like something… Just don't read it. Nobody's forcing you to. I went, like, at least half a year on the Chatterbox without reading any ski lodges. Like, at all. I could've gone more, too, but eventually I did start participating. There's plenty of other things to do if you don't want to be in a ski lodge. If the gore makes you uncomfortable, you don't have to do it. But there's a lot of people who really do like them, and it's a special tradition on the Chatterbox. Getting rid of ski lodges completely would, in my opinion, be disrespectful to those people. You want your voice to be heard, and I get that, but to be heard, you also have to listen.


Okay, thank you for reading through. What do you think about that? I think I've ranted long enough, I want to hear your thoughts again.  

submitted by Periwinkle, age Pi, Somewhere in the stars
(May 1, 2023 - 8:02 pm)

Ok. I understand your point of view. What you said makes sense. I think what happens is, when I read the Ski Lodge, the intentions were very mysterious and I knew there was going to be death involved. I completely respect your comments. I am not ok with the theory of Ski Lodges. The thing is that I am very emotionally sensitive, there are some movies rated 8+ that I don't want to watch because they seem too scary from the description. That is mainly why I am uncomfortable with the theory of, and most ski lodges in practice. 

Golden Lion Tamarin, it's important to know your own boundaries and we're very glad that you recognize your limits. Other CBers enjoy Ski Lodges a great deal and we're not going to start banning them or enforcing rules beyond the ones we already have in place for them. That being said, it sounds like it would have been helpful from the beginning to know about the scarier aspects of ski lodges. I'm going to add a line to the Ultimate Guide about possible deaths/scares. --admin

submitted by Golden Lion Tamarin
(May 2, 2023 - 12:39 pm)

I can understand being emotionally sensitive, definitely. I agree with the admins that it helps to know right away that ski lodges can get spooky. I bet it would be helpful for ski lodges to have warnings sometimes if they might get too frightening for more sensitive CBers. I wonder if we could label some ski lodges - like a 1 if it's not very scary at all, a 2 if it's a bit more scary, and a 3 if it's definitely not for the faint of heart. We can't use those labels on old ski lodges, but maybe new ones could be like "this ski lodge is a level 2 ski lodge" or "this ski lodge is a level 1." Idk if anyone really wants to do that though, just an idea.

submitted by Periwinkle, age Pi, Somewhere in the stars
(May 2, 2023 - 4:44 pm)

Thank you for the idea, but I think this system could be abused, as an impersonator (idk why) could purposely miswrite the level of the ski lodge or tell the admins that they made a typo. It really could have some harmful implications. However, a modified system could work. Maybe the authors could tell the admins where they would be going with the story, then the Admins would delete that part of the comment so that there are no spoilers, then rate it based on a larger scale system (close to 0 for not really a Ski Lodge or close to 10 for Stephen King/extreme horror novel type Ski Lodge). Then they could edit it with a note from the Admin explaining the level. This might be too much work for the Admins, but I think it is the only foolproof method, except for adjusting the scale.

This rating system would be too complicated and time-consuming. Admins will continue to do their best to post all material they deem appropriate for Chatterbox and delete whatever they do not think appropriate.


submitted by Golden Lion Tamarin
(May 2, 2023 - 7:12 pm)

Fine, then we can use Peri's scale.

submitted by Golden Lion Tamarin
(May 2, 2023 - 7:36 pm)

Would others be willing to do that? And also, I rank my ski lodge as a 2 for moderate violence and fear, as well as light (CB-appropriate, ofc) romance.

I'm not in favor of any rating system. Just trust that Admins will do their best to post only appropriate for Chatterbox material.


submitted by Periwinkle, age Pi, Somewhere in the stars
(May 2, 2023 - 8:20 pm)

Oh, I'm sorry Admins! I wasn't trying to be rude. I personally do trust you and don't think we need a rating system, but I was trying to make GLT happy.

No need to apologize! We just don't think a rating system will work on the CB. --admin

submitted by Periwinkle, age Pi, Somewhere in the stars
(May 3, 2023 - 5:19 am)

Could I share an idea?

So I've been thinking of compiling a ski lodge library -- like a thread with links to past ski lodges -- and perhaps I could rate them on there? I've read the majority of the ski lodges there, so I think I might be able to accurately rate them. I could make a rubric of exactly what each number/rating meant, so the rating were more consistent? Obviously, this method wouldn't be completely foolproof, but I do think it could work. It would work better if we had multiple CBers sharing their opinions in the rating process, so if this is the idea we'd like to go with, I could make a thread on This Month to discuss what each ski lodge should be rated.

So, basically Peri's system but kind of standardized. 

A thread with links to past ski lodges would be useful by some people. Admins are not, however, in favor of a detailed rating system. It sounds like it would be too time-consuming, and ratings are likely to be subjective—readers won't necessarily agree on the rating.


submitted by pangolin, age she | they, Outskirts of the Galaxy
(May 3, 2023 - 6:30 am)

Hey GLT!

Just so you know--- you described "level 10" as "steven king" horror but don't worry about that-- there's no way the admins would let something on steven king's level be posted.  I believe everything is kept pg.

submitted by Tsuki the Skywolf
(May 3, 2023 - 7:23 am)

Admins, which Ultimate Guide are you talking about? I haven't heard of an Admin-made Ultimate Guide.

The "New Ultimate Guide," which is created by CBers. --admin

submitted by Golden Lion Tamarin
(May 2, 2023 - 6:58 pm)