Bring me the

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Bring me the

Bring me the answer to an unanswered question. 

submitted by Wrapped in shadow , Instructions released
(October 3, 2018 - 10:59 am)

That's what I was thinking.

submitted by Micearenice
(October 5, 2018 - 10:38 am)

@Admins Why isn't Rogue's post showing up?

I deleted one thread last night about impersonation at what seemed to me like a reasonable request, if that's what you're referring to. It seemed like it had had its say.

Admin

submitted by Agent Winter, Classified
(October 7, 2018 - 8:09 am)

@Agent Winter that WAS me! XD XD That was my answer to the instructions! Don't worry yourself, friend. :) ;P

submitted by R.W. @A.W.
(October 6, 2018 - 11:38 pm)

You thought the answer was yourself?

submitted by Viola?, age Secret, Secret
(October 7, 2018 - 3:34 pm)

Wait. Viola?. It was about an AE. They're not even real, and it's really nothing to 'not be on the best terms with a CBer' about.

submitted by @Viola?
(October 7, 2018 - 5:15 pm)

It was not the AE.

It was the post itself being controlling towards Viola's AE. 

Even though AEs are not serious characters, godmodding is not okay.

submitted by A CBette
(October 7, 2018 - 6:32 pm)

No, the 'Yes' was my answer.

@A CBette, excuse me, but I was not godmodding. I was not the one who grabbed the other's wrist fiercely and threatened her. To add to that, I have apologized, and Nymph has refused to. I myself overreacted, yes, but none of this is my fault. In the future, I advise you not to bring this subject up, for it seeds anmity between you and Rogue. This goes for any CBer as well.

That is correct. Please do not continue to claim that this is my fault and that I am to blame. I am not. It's really aggravating. 

submitted by Rogue Wildling
(October 7, 2018 - 8:22 pm)

I hate to bring this up again, but what you just described isn't godmodding.

I read about what happened on the AE chat thread. Nymph was instigated. She was staying true to her character by threatening Ocean Song and grabbing her wrist. Surely you can appreciate the art of operating as a character would, even when that action isn't necessarily the best one to take.

Additionally, grabbing someone's wrist isn't considered godmodding. That's because you may interpret it as you wish. If you like, you can have your character dodge the grab, or wrestle their wrist out of it; or you can go along with it and have it incite more tension. Tension among characters is actually very fun to write, as long as they're evenly matched.

The way Ocean Song operated with Nymph was not evenly matched. You have a tendancy to overcompensate with your characters when it comes to powers. Their powers are always left open-ended ("they can do such-and-such, but may be able to do other things as well . . . ") or they just have a ridiculous amount of them. I'm not objecting to characters having powers, but they need to be given in moderation. I'm also not objecting to having characters fight with each other. In fact, some of my favorite characters are the ones that are the most aggressive.

It becomes a problem when one character refuses to let the other have a single success. Fighting, especially among two people, has to be evenly matched, or else it just isn't fun. It may be enjoyable for you to have your character win every fight, but to Viola? and the other CBers who have faced your OP characters, it's disheartening and makes the interaction/RP very boring and often frustrating.

I highly encourage continuing Nymph and Ocean Song's animosity! Tension between characters is fun to RP and I'm sure both of you will highly enjoy it. But it's important to keep in mind that Ocean Song is not allowed to win every battle. Because right now, she has.

submitted by St.Owl
(October 8, 2018 - 12:46 am)

@Admins: May I ask why my previous comment was deleted? I know it wasn't exactly cheerful, but it was truthful. A dispute occurred between me and another CBer that was not entirely fun and supportive. Was it inappropriate to confess how I feel about what happened?

 

To "@Viola?": I'm afraid I can't agree. Maybe you're right and I don't understand what an AE is supposed to be, but it's too late to change what happened. There was an argument, and that isn't simply vanishing, especially since it has not been addressed.

To A CBette, thank you.

To St. Owl, I agree. Thank you, too.

To Ocean and Rogue, I'm really sorry that you continue to reject everything I have to say about the matter. I'm sorry that you don't want to talk about it. I'm sorry that you're willing to threaten another with the prospect of animosity because she wants to talk about it. I don't like to pick at the scab, but I think if we don't pay attention to it, it'll fester. There's already bad blood between us from it, so I'm not afraid of bleeding a little more to get a bandage. I'm going to talk about it. You don't have to read this, but it might help us heal. I'm not trying to embarrass or denounce you with it. If anyone acts on the belief that I am, I am willing to take up your defense against them. This I promise. And I do not take promises lightly.

What happened was an interaction between Ocean and Nymph, and interactions by definition involve contributions from both parties.

Nymph blew up when you scratched her because that's the way she is (grumpy, irritable, lofty, brazen, competitive, not afraid to make enemies), and I thought you would understand that and apologize again or take it in stride, either possibility having the potential to calm her down. I did not at all expect you to try to intimidate her. I did not expect you to continue with the assumption that Nymph would let you do and say what you did without a peep. She would not have, and that is where the trouble arises. You did something that annoyed her, so she did something that displeased you, and you responded by ending the encounter in your own favor without giving her a chance to react. Me being who I am, I wasn't okay with that. Me continuing to be who I am, I said so. In retrospect, I probably could've phrased it better, but it still stands that one thing you did upset me, and you treated that like it was unimportant, which upset me further. I responded while upset, and I believe this upset you. For that, I am sorry.

Yes, it was wrong of Nymph to act the way she did. She did it anyway because she is flawed. This would not have happened if she were not easily angered. However, to change that is something I am unwilling to do. My goal in creating her was not to make a good person who always does the right thing. It was to exaggerate and express a part of myself that is frequently stupid, wild, aggressive, immature, and emotional, and that I'd like to believe I've outgrown. It makes her interesting. In this instance, that had unexpected consequences. I have accepted that. I'm okay with it. I believe coming to terms with it was a good thing to have done.

She was wrong, but that does not mean you were right. What you did was not fully respectful to me, although that does not necessarily mean Nymph and I were fully respectful to you. It is frustrating to me that you could not allow the possibility that you might not have done everything perfectly, that you might lose control, that someone who isn't either of you might have the final say in the matter. It is frustrating that you have reacted to every disagreement I've seen as though it were a cruel, unfounded assault to which you must fight back without hesitation or pause.

One place where I think we are different is that I don't believe disagreeing or getting in trouble needs to be a serious thing. It seems like you do, and so you've put yourself in an unbeatable position to protect yourself. Nymph is the kind of person who may not know that, but cannot let you go unchallenged. I am the kind of person to insist that she is powerful enough to be a challenge. When you continue to dismiss us as you did on that occasion, we are not happy. 

I will not apologize for either Nymph or myself being imperfect. I will apologize for unintentionally hurting you as a result of our being imperfect, and I sincerely hope you can do the same. I'm willing to forgive you if you tell me that you messed up and hurt me. I won't lord it over you. You can hold me to that. 

If this arrangement is unreasonable to you, then please explain why and tell me what a better one is. I can't let it go, but I'm willing to fix it, if that makes any sense.

 

I didn't delete it to the best of my knowledge–there may have been a glitch, especially if you edited it afterward. Or it may have been my mistake, hitting the wrong key. ––Admin  

submitted by Viola?, age Secret, Secret
(October 8, 2018 - 12:42 pm)

@Admins: Now that I look more closely, there are three comments missing; one a reply to the first, mine a reply to the reply. This might have been the chain you mentioned previously. I still remember roughly what was said, if it's any help--Rogue made a guess at the answer of Wrapped in Shadow's riddle, Agent Winter didn't understand and asked why people don't like Rogue, and I outlined what happened with Nymph and Ocean. Do you think deleting one erased them all?

 

I think that must have been on the previous Admin's shift–but yes, deleting the "parent" message in a chain deletes all its replies. If we decided to delete the parent message for some reason, then I'm afraid your replies got lost. Sorry for the confusion. --Admin  

submitted by Viola?, age Secret, Secret
(October 8, 2018 - 2:37 pm)

This is not the thread for this! Please either make another thread or drop the subject! Please!!!! Thank you!

An answer to an unanswerd question? got me there! Man these keep getting harder. 

Please please please please please please make another thread for this! This is for the scavenger hunt! not for arguing! Thank you!! 

submitted by @EVERYONE
(October 8, 2018 - 4:38 pm)

@Viola? I accept your apology, but I must point out that Ocean Song and I have each apologized a multitude of times, none of which you have accepted. Ocean acted the way she did because she was not acquainted with Nymph's personality yet. If you recall, Ocean was not yet a day old. She acted the way she did to Nymph's reaction because, contrary to popular belief, she was not trying to intimidate Nymph, she was merely showing Nymph that she will not be intimidated by Nymph. That is all. However, all of this is driving me insane and I've been debating on whether or not I will let Ocean Song go and replace her with a different AE... I'll go do that now.

submitted by Rogue Wildling
(October 8, 2018 - 4:56 pm)

I didn't accept because I didn't think you were taking me seriously. I thought you were just saying the words that would get you out of trouble. I'm not sure that's true anymore, but at the time I was too upset to--well, something. Not think. I've been thinking about it a lot. I had a pang while I was thinking, about how Ocean was new and maybe you were trying to do something with her that I don't. Nymph expected to be known. Neither she or I realized that Ocean didn't know how Nymph would react--not that it would've helped much for Nymph, unfortunately. I still don't like what Ocean did (it came out of context, for one thing, because I didn't know her at all either, and the rest is a wall of text), but I wish you or I had said that earlier. Let's be clearer about where our AEs are coming from in the future, shall we? 

Wait, you're replacing her?  

submitted by Viola?, age Secret, Secret
(October 10, 2018 - 5:55 am)

Do you surrender?

submitted by Wrapped in shadow
(October 9, 2018 - 12:01 pm)
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submitted by Is it this?
(October 9, 2018 - 3:12 pm)