Alrighty, a debate! 

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Alrighty, a debate! 

Alrighty, a debate!  Thank you Admins!  This is a debate on the usage of cellphones.

Cell phones are expensive and a large responsibility, and I don’t believe that young children should own them.  First (I’ve mentioned this a couple times) children under the age of 13 (well, maybe 12) don’t go places without an adult or guardian or someone to supervise them.  The supervisor is responsible for the child, and so having a cell phone is frivolous at that age, because it is simply to fit in, because they won’t need a cell phone for emergencies if someone is watching over them!  Second, when you start using a cell phone at a young age, you lose social skills.  I’ve known a couple cases where the child (or now older teen) is awful at talking on the phone, or keeping up a conversation because of texting.  Even if you are old enough to own a cell phone, texting is a lame excuse for “talking” to someone.   It also ruins your spelling, because most kids use “txt talk” ( as we’ve seen even here, on the CB.)  (Oh and I’m not saying this for any of you CBers.  This is just in general.  You all might be a totally different case, it’s just this is what I’ve seen around here.)  It drives me INSANE when I text an entire long thing and only get an “oh” or “haha” as a reply.  It not only is annoying, it kind of hurts, because it shows that I’m trying hard to keep in touch and talk to these people (in the way that they like= texting) and it seems like they don’t even care!  Yes, I have a phone, but my parents didn't want me to get one until I was driving.  But they decided I needed one because I've been doing alot without them.  Basically, I have mine for safety reasons, but I do like having it, because EVERYONE has one in today's world.  Ugh.

 

I have more to say but I must go to bed now.  So, what are your opinions?  I’m not mad at all if you are younger and have a phone, in fact, I don’t really care. :) It’s just, how do you behave with your phone?  What do you use it for?  Do you think, even though you have one, that it’s pointless, or annoying at times?  Do you find the way others use their phones is terrible? (for example: sending bad messages/pictures, spreading rumors, the way they text like I mentioned above, etc).  Debate! 

 

Robyn~D~

 

submitted by R~D~, age 14, WA
(January 19, 2011 - 12:56 am)

Even though I'm younger than you I'm in the same situation. I also have a cell phone for SAFETY REASONS ONLY! A lot(and I mean a lot) of my friends use txt talking and I find that kind of annoying because it ruins their grammar and spelling. At some point it will get so bad that some people won't even spell right! I think it's terrible when people misuse their phones(pictures and everything) I mean it doesn't make sense. I personally agree with you that younger kids should not have phones(unless needed). Oh and texting is a waste of time!

submitted by Elizabeth M , age 11, Germany
(January 19, 2011 - 12:15 pm)

Toppity Top!

submitted by Top, Please =)
(January 19, 2011 - 6:19 pm)

Under 12 (Unless it's for safety), I should probably have one for babysitting and when I'm at dance alone, but Mom says we can't afford one.

I HATE text talking. It ruins grammar, spelling and the ability to be social by talking. 

submitted by Charlotte, age 12, Lost in my mind
(January 19, 2011 - 9:40 pm)

I used to have a phone, excepy my sister decided to lose it (I don't think she meant to, but I'm still mad). Anyway, a short time after she lost it I read that if you keep your cellphone on you too much, it couses some kinda cancer, so I'm rethinking about getting another one.

 

Spam guy says "mmgd" My, my, good dog?  I wonder if he's got any other pets?  

submitted by ALD, age 11, the earth
(January 19, 2011 - 10:13 pm)

Well, I got a cell phone when I was really young, but that was because my dad got a new one for free and we had an extra, and it didn't work well enough that a profit could be made by selling it, and my older brother already had a phone, so the only real option was to give it to me. It doesn't work anymore, and when it stopped doing so, I got a new one, but that was only because we'd moved by then and hadn't purchased a home phone, and if I was home alone without a phone, and there was a fire or other disaster, and all the exits were blocked... I wouldn't be able to call anyone for help. It cost less money to get a cell phone for me than a home phone (and cell phones are more convenient, anyway, as you can take them to places), so I was given another one (and another when it stopped working, etc). I talked to my friends on it a lot when I was 10 or so, but I almost never use it for anything at all now, and some people who meet me automatically assume I don't have one (which is actually much more reasonable than it sounds, as you'd know if you knew me in real life). It's basically treated more as a spare phone than anything else; I haven't put any contacts on the list, and other members of my family have, which says something as they all have phones of thier own to use (I'm the youngest.). I definitely wouldn't have it if there was a home phone.

I do think it's ridiculous when people get them for no reason other than that everyone else has one, but it's not exactly as if that's just cell phones, is it? I really can't believe that so many people are getting so many things they don't really need or want at all. It's a waste of the resources used to make the product, in my opinion.

I think the ways you mentioned people using their phones are terrible, but "sending bad messages/pictures, spreading rumors" can happen just as easily over the Internet as on the phone...

submitted by Ima, age 12, Planet Terra
(January 19, 2011 - 11:02 pm)

@ALD: I also believe it causes brain cancer (I think it's brain cancer) if you are constantly talking on it or keeping it near you. 

 

@Ima: OH, I get it.  I know a couple families like that, who don't have a homephone.  It is definitely less expensive for certain families to have cellphones instead.  My grandma is like that, too.  So that is completely understandable... I would be terrified being in a house without a phone!  I know; you have a graet point there.  It's not just cellphones. 

 

I was at a party once where a friend invited her entire class... and me.  It wasn't awkward because I knew alot of the people, but the thing that bugged me was that most of them were constantly texting!  Okay, does that even make sense?  You're there, hanging out with friends, and you can't even enjoy that time without texting someone else?  It's terribly rude.  When I'm around people and they keep texting... I feel like shouting, "HELLOOOOOO.  You're hanging out with me.  Do you need to be talking to someone else when I'm RIGHT HERE?"  It's like an addiction for some, and I guess that is when it gets rude and annoying. 

submitted by R~D~, age 14, Washington Stat
(January 20, 2011 - 1:48 pm)

I agree that when younger kids have cell phones for no reason it is annoying. I have a cell phone, but only because of babysitting, and the fact that I'm alone sometimes. I tell most of my friends not to text me because I never have my phone on. Also it's annoying that all some of my friends do is text because I miss the real fun we used to have.
☆Phillis☆

submitted by Phillis, age 12
(January 20, 2011 - 3:40 pm)

Perhaps this seems crazy for some, but I will be 16 this summer. . . And I don't have a phone.

 

My opinion is that while phones may be necessary for safety reasons, they are not necessary just for texting or because everyone has one. Who invented txtng anyway? They are called phones, that is, "pertainging to sound or voice."

submitted by Brynne
(January 20, 2011 - 4:25 pm)

I want a cell phone really badly- but I do have great comunication skills. I think it is not okay for an elementary school aged kid to have a cell phone- but okay for a 12 and older kid who has already developed good comunication skills to have one. Also would be okay to have one if you have lots of activities you go to. 

submitted by Choco, age 12, here
(January 20, 2011 - 4:04 pm)

Cell-phones are a hazard. When the driver of a car is texting, they are risking their own lives and the lives of the people in the car with them. Also, I have a friend, and she's only twelve, and she'll text when my sisters and I are at her house. It gets very annoying and rude. But when cell-phones are a hazard, they are also for safety if used in the right way. If you're somewhere without your parents, it's safe to keep one with you. A guy at a piano recital I was in in December was saying how if one of his friends texts him and asks something like "Did you like the movie?" (Or really it would look something like this, "did u luv the mov?") he'll call them and say, "Yes, I liked it very much."

 

submitted by Hannah ☺☻, age 15
(January 20, 2011 - 4:42 pm)

Okay, don't hate me guys, but I find texting fun. *curls into a ball and braces self for thrown tomatoes* I do it on my iPod (touch if you're wondering) but sometimes (er, usually) I don't use "txt talk" unless I'm feeling lazy. 

 Anyways, (my sentences might seem weird right now because I'm listening to music) I don't think that anyone underneath 12 should have a phone unless they really need it. Like they babysit and/or they don't have a home phone. 

 Oh, there's this girl on my bus who got a cell phone in grade five. She kept on losing her phones then got new ones. (She lost an LG Rumour 2 at Wonderland. (I admire LG phones XD) I'm pretty sure that was last year, when she was in grade 7) I find that... sad. She's in Grade 8 now if you're wondering.

 Okay, that's all I have to say. Ciao! 

submitted by Olive
(January 20, 2011 - 9:32 pm)

Olive, we don't hate you!  Hey, there's nothing wrong with enjoying your phone!  :)  I didn't say I don't text, because I do.  It is kinda fun and easy, but I'd just prefer a phone call, most times.  It's just if you text constantly, so much to where you can't abstain from it no matter where you are, that's when it gets bad.  Or, even if you don't text that much but still find nothing wrong with having a conversation through texting, while you should be focusing on the conversation of the people around you, that's not right.  Like, when I played soccer two years ago, I didn't have a phone.  I drove to a game with four other girls, and they were on their phones the whole time.  Sending each other ringtones and pictures sharing texts, etc.  I just sat there the whole time, and no one thought to try to include me in what they were doing.  I felt so left out!  When you can't focus on the people around you, the ones that are actually with you, that's terrible!  That's when I absolutely despise cell phones!

submitted by R~D~, age 14, WA
(January 21, 2011 - 1:01 pm)

Ah, this is an interesting debate and I'm so glad that there are people my age against cell phones.  I'm not necessarily there, for reasons outlined later, but everyone I know has new, "in-style" cell phones and would look at me crazily if I said I didn't like cell phones.  So kudos to you for being completely against the traditional teenage view!  

 

My mom is against cell phones.  She's really concerned about health and so is trying to get me to use a headset with my cell phone so that I do not have to put it to my ear very often.  I see you have brought up the health issues here in this debate, so I won't go too much into it.  Oh yes, and the headset that came with my phone has this earbud thing that doesn't even stay in my ear, which bugs me to no end.  I was talking with my friend on my phone for a long time on Saturday and I eventually put it on speakerphone.  Unfortunately, when someone is on speakerphone, their voice sound all weird and it bugs me.  But I guess that's better than devloping brain cancer.

 

So, I got a phone in, I believe, the summer after 4th grade, which I never expected to happen.  I was counting on getting one when I was about 16 or so.  However, I went to a sleep away camp for the first time the summer after third grade where you were not allowed to call your parents.  I got dreadfully homesick that week and I've never looked on that camp with fond memories... though I did meet a nice friend there that I started to keep in touch with but haven't for a really long time.  But that's besides the point.  So, when I went to a different sleep away camp the summer after 4th grade, I was determined to make it a better experience.  (It helped that the camp was nicer.)  We were allowed to call our parents during the camp, so my parents got me this tiny little Go Phone.  Which basically means that you put money on your phone and then take money out of that pool for each call you make.  Then, at a certain date, your money expires and you have to put more in.  So no plan.  I used that phone so much at camp, but after that, I didn't really touch it at all.  I felt weird saying I had a phone, since that was the most un-me thing ever.  (My friends were incredulous when I said I had gotten a phone.)  But when I left my elementary/middle school at sixth grade for a new school, I realized how lucky I was to have a phone.  My new school is 7-12 (I'm in 8th now) and it's like a high school.  There are 600 kids and after school, the parents just park in the lower, main parking lot (seniors and faculty are in the upper, which is great and avoids confusion).  But, even with the seniors in the upper lot, there are about 500 students worth of parents coming at one times (generally).  And unless I want to walk up and down the rows looking for my dad, I can't really see him from the school.  And here's how my phone comes into it all.  I can just call him (it's just a 30-second call) and ask him where he is.  It's the most efficient and helpful thing imaginable, and the phone isn't even close to my head for that long.  In that respect, I love having a phone, so I can feel secure.  Borrowing a friend's phone sometimes works, but it's not ideal.  Therefore, phones work for me.

 

BUT, here are the catches.  I am not allowed to text.  I say it "sadly" in front of my friends when they ask me if I can text, but I'm actually glad.  I've heard so many stories of people who though texting was their friend, but then became addicted, and are now really regretting it.  I don't want to become attached to my phone and I really don't want to lose my grammar.  I feel that it is necessary to type well all the time (though I have been lapsing into losing capitalization when doing text types on iChat or Skype, which bugs me).  Texting basically goes against my principles.  Also, as I think it was R~D~ (could've been someone else, and if so I apologize) who said that if you text, you lose your calling skills.  How true!  I find myself wanting to email rather than call people.  I am actually such a shy person that I chomp at the bit (figuratively of course) when my parents tell me to call someone, even if it's a friend!  I am afraid to make a fool of myself in front of a parent, or not know what to say, or leave an embarrassing message... the list goes on.  I'm getting better, but I know that if I started texting, I'd only get worse.

 

The other catch is that I can't really use it for talking to my friends.  I do sometimes, because that's the number my friends have and all my friends' numbers are in my cell phone, and once I've looked them up, I'm too lazy to go over, grab the landline, and punch the number in.  It's much easier to just call on my cell.  But my mom is worried about the effects of cell phones on health (as I previously mentioned) so she doesn't want me talking a lot on my cell.  I don't now, but maybe in the future I would have.

 

So to summarize, I think that for emergency uses, cell phones are important.  But really, it depends on where you live (safety in a big city versus safety in a small, tiny town), what school you go to (if you go to a school with only 10 people in your grade, there should be no problem finding your ride home), and what your schedule is like.  If you do many independent things, yes it is helpful to have a phone, but if you're with you parent all the time, why bother?  I am totally against having a phone when you're really young (though, Ima, you are an exception).  I'd say 5th grade at the very earliest, and middle/high school as a good time.  That's what worked for me.

 

Thanks for the debate thread, Robyn!  I appreciate threads like these.  And sorry for the length of my post... I just get carried away some times. :)

~Leaf 

submitted by Leaf ♪☮♥, age 13 1/2, on a tree!
(January 21, 2011 - 1:28 pm)

@Olive: I don't mind if people text, or if they think it's fun (personally I think it seems kind of fun, but I've never actually done it, not having a phone), unless they are doing it in the company of people they should just be talking to. You don't seem like the kind of person to just text someone else while another friend is talking, or do it obsessively. We don't mind. :)

 

This actually isn't much of a debate, since most people seem to have basically the same opinion... 

submitted by Brynne
(January 21, 2011 - 6:22 pm)

@Brynne: Hm.  You're right.  I figured those younger would disagree with me.... not that it's a bad thing they don't!  And, I think there is absolutely nothing wrong with you not having a phone!  Our parents didn't get phones until they were, what, 30 something? (I forgot when cell phones came out).  So why do we need them when we aren't even adults yet? 

submitted by R~D~, age 14, WA
(January 22, 2011 - 1:05 am)