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Oh, oh, oh, THANK YOU!!!!!!!! I am overjoyed! I didn't express this a whole lot, but the past few days on the CB have been very distressful to me…this is a huge wave of relief.
Okay, so no inappropriate things, extensive violence, drugs…sounds good. And no gender identity issues…okay, I think that's a fair compromise, considering the reasons you gave.
I am so happy! Diversity is a wonderful thing. And equality is now confirmed! Race, religion, gender, sexual orientation…I am so happy. Same-gender romance has always been a pretty normal thing in my world, something I accept and love, and I was afraid it was going to be excluded from an online world I cherished so much…but no, equality is ensured now. I know some of you will not be pleased with this, but please don't rant or leave. Diversity is something that we want and need on the CB, and I hope you will be able to tolerate it, whatever your religion may be. Consider showing your love for the CB by staying, avoiding specific threads if you wish, but staying. I know even then, you still may leave. I wouldn't prefer it, but if you choose to, then I will respect your decision.
Also, I would like to share with everyone one of my favorite quotes about hope, persistence, and equal love, said by one of my favorite (and I'm sure many other CBers' favorite) people:
"We rise and fall and light from dying embers,
remembrances that hope and love last longer.
And love is love is love is love is love
is love is love is love can never be killed or swept aside."
-Lin-Manuel Miranda, 70th Annual Tony Awards acceptance speech, 2016
Admins, thank you once again. You patiently moderated our comments, and this note was well-written, with sensitivity to all. I am ever grateful for you.
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Wait, we can't write about a character with gender identity differences?
You can write about characters with gender identity differences, but the CB is not a place for long drawn-out controversial discussions. We will be closing threads if they get too heated. ~Admin
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Ok, thank you!
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Thank you, Admins. While I respect and understand the decision of those who are leaving, I do see this acceptance as a positive thing for the CB. In the real world, no matter what your religion or beliefs, you will come across these topics. You cannot stay hidden, sheltered forever. And overall, this brings a large diversity to the CB, something we really need and should appreciate. Again, I respect the decision of those leaving, but I see this as a very positive decision. Thank you, Admins.
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I have four things i would like to say
1. Thank you Admins for the ruling on The Issue. it is very fair and makes wonderful sense.
2. People are leaving because of The Issue. this is their right and they have every reason to believe in their views. But now people are leaving because these other people are too and this is causing an ugly chain reaction.
3. The more people leave, the worse it gets. If you think that leaving the CB along with Cho, and Daisy then do it. i won't stop you but i will disagree. Did everyone start evacuating when Mei left? NO! So please stay on the CB and make it as wonderful as it once was.
Thank you all for listening, i sincerely hope this all blows over and we can go back to writing amazing storys and drawing incredible pictures and being all around awsome.
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We are all leaving on our own account. Our leaving is linked to the new rule, not to each other.
@Cho–stick around for a few days; I might post something that will change everything. Or at least post something. It may not change a thing. It may not even show up. But in case it works…I want you to be there. If it's a flop, I'll tell you.
PS–To No One In Particular: This policy is to make CBers comfortable and safe. For such a policy, I think there sure is a lot of unhappiness floating around.
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Alright, I will state my opinion. I hope this is okay, and I'm sorry if I offend anyone here.
1) I strongly disagree with same gender romance. Always have, always will. Nothing can change that.
2) My Æs and I will not be participating in this.
3) My mom says this sometimes, and I've always found it somewhat annoying, but I understand what she means now: "Fair does not mean everyone gets the same thing. Fair means everyone gets what they need."
-My Mom
Is Same Gender Romance what everyone needs? No. Is it what some people need? No. It is not what anyone needs. I respect and understand the Admins decision, and everyone else's opinions and beliefs. But this is my opinion. I don't hate anyone, I'm not mad at anyone, and I won't judge you if this is what you decide to do. I am simply stating a few things.
4) I may not agree with this, but I will still be kind about it. I'm not going to go around discriminating people because of this. I won't be mad at anyone, or hate them, and I won't exclude or look down upon gay people. I will only pray for them.
5) I will stay. I will not leave. I realized that I don't need to run from my problems, I need to face them. I can't stay in my own safe little bubble forever. And if I can live in world that agrees with this kind of thing, I can stay on the CB and not have to agree with every policy. I don't have to like it or participate in it. I don't have to accept it or be okay with it. And I won't be. But wherever I go, there will be Same Sex Romance, and I'll just have to live with it. I live in a fallen world and do just fine. So I can stay.
My opinions and views aren't meant to be offensive or hurtful in anyway, and I apologize profusly for any discomfort this post may have caused you.
Admins, I respect your decision, though I may not agree with it. Thank you for welcoming everyone, even if they want to be different, and thank you for keeping us safe. I really do appreciate it. 🙂
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Ok, so maybe you're uncomfortable with this, and maybe you don't support it, but that doesn't mean it's not fair. The admins have looked very closely at both sides of the argument and have come to a reasonable decision. Maybe you are the one being unfair towards gay or lesbian people. Would you like it if you were labelled as "corruption?" It doesn't look like you've even given them a chance.
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"Same gender romance is not what anyone needs"
So let me get this straight (no pun intended)
You are not going to make a fuss about this (which is good)
But you do believe
That the allowance of same gender romance is not something anyone needs?
There are people, real people, who are born with a preference for the same gender!
It is not something you can change!
Doesn't everyone, regardless of how their BRAIN IS WIRED AT BIRTH, deserve equal respect?
Equal societal acceptance?
"But Somebody," you say, "this is about fictional characters!"
Normalization of same-gender romance is important and it starts in fiction! In most fictional works about LGB characters, the same-gender attraction is the entire premise of the character. And if we straight-up don't allow same-gender romance in fiction, even in communities like this, we're taking a step away from normalizing LGB relationships, and causing more negative stigma to surround it!
Literally none of this is going to go through, but I really have to click submit here because of how upset this post makes me.
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I think it's strange how the most important thing about LGB characters in books is that they're LGB. There is more to everyone's life than who they like. Everyone has problems/conflicts in their lives that are not about crushes, etc.
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*Cries* I'm sorry, guys! Please don't be mad! I didn't mean to be so harsh. I don't mean to discriminate! I don't hate them, and I definitly don't want to be mean or rude to them. I'm sorry for making you guys mad. *sigh* I think I'm gonna leave this thread. It is if no benefit to me. :,-( I seem to only be causing problems, and I'm really sorry.
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So, ideas for the name of this issue?
So far, I've got:
– The Opinon Evacuation
– The Issue (so original, right?)
– The Diversity Debate
– A difference of opinon
– Equality Evacuation
I don't think this qualifies as a war. A conflict, really, maybe a skrimish.
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I'm sorry, I'm so behind the times and busy. Where did this issue come from?
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Gared wanted his AE, DJ Bow tie to have a boyfriend. People started arguing over that, so the Admins said they would make a decision on whether same-sex orientated characters and AEs would be allowed. People got upset about that, and many said they were leaving if the decision didn't go their way. The decision was made and posted. You can see it on this very thread. It's the thread itself. The decision got mixed reactions. Some are upset and leaving, while others were happy and relieved. But what those staying behind (including myself) are trying to do right now is advocate for peace, and urge people to start leaving the topic and moving on.
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You'd be surprised. I've been in almost all the wars, and this affected me the most. I think it definitely qualifies as a full-fledged war.
I suggested "The Diversity War" on another thread. But I don't think we need to decide on a name. The label just comes to us eventually. We never exactly agreed that the Nostalgia War would be called the Nostalgia War, after all. It was just "the war" until it was over, and then one person used the term, and then others used it, and it became official.
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I'm just going to point something out–and try to be as unbiased as possible when I do. I'm really sorry if I offend anyone. I'm not trying to. I simply feel like this needs to be pointed out…
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Exactly. Well said. I know this is supposed to be a rule that is fair and kind to everyone, and I respect that, but it doesn't feel like much of a compromise.
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Wouldn't that hurt feelings, though? It's like not allowing black people in your RP, because you are the creator and you said so.
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I completely agree with Just Another CBer. Admins can we please change this bit of the policy? I know for sure no one that I know of on here is gonna make a "Hate Gay People" thread, and no one's going to make an RP discrimiating against Gay or LGBT people. But it does make some people uncomfortable if soemone makes a gay character on their thread or RP. And if we want to put this argument behind us this isnt gonna help if I make a thread and *blank* comes over and makes a gay character on it. First off people (like me) are going to get uncomfortable which goes against the "Everyone should be safe and comfortable policy"
I also know for a fact nobody going to post "No gay or LGBT people allowed, this is a straight people thread only"
Nobody I know of is going to do this. The CB isnt like that. The CBers I know arent like that.
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I agree as well.
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YES, JACB!!!!!!
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I think, if the policy stands, that if anyone made a gay Charrie on one of my RPs, I'd just leave.
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My Mom suggested that to me, but I can't lose my AEs … I just can't …
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I am on here with people who support things I don't, and have I left? Your AEs are fine. They tread in their own circle, and I tread in my own.
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WTW guys?! W.T.W (that does not stand for what you think it means, it means What The What) People can be sho they want to be when they watnt to be and how they want to be. There is no chaging this. I know many gay people, and they are the nicest people ever. My parents believe in everyone's rights, and I have stepped clear off that line of getting them involved. BUT, they do check Cricket every once in a while to make sure that I'm being 'nice' or something along that line. So if this doesn't end soon…I may also have to leave. I don't want to, so can we please end it before my parents come on? The Admins have made their decisions, and what's the point in arguing? People will make gay charries, and gay charries can be extremely nice, just like gay people in person. So please, keep your minds open and lets drop things. PLEASE GUYS. I'M BEGGING YOU!
Goes into Le Mis, *Look down, and see, the beggers at your feet! Look down, look down! Upon your fellow me-en.*
Claaws and everyone else, we do plan to close discussion on this topic at the end of this week.
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Admin said that those thread would be closed soon. I agree with admins. On pretty much everything they have said. I will miss whoever's leaving. Can we all please be nice, accept (or even if you don't accept, don't be rude to that person) and move on? Also, I do have an opinion on this subject, but there's no need for me to share it, really, at least on CB. Thank you for your time. Let's all please be friends now.
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Thank you, everyone, for your thoughtful comments. Discussion of this issue is now closed on the Chatterbox.
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