Philisophical Question:

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Philisophical Question:

Philisophical Question:

Seti I is the Pharoah. He is the most powerful being in Egypt. Anyone less powerful than Seti I is a subject. The combined Subjects for the People.

Seti I gets his power from the gods. But Seti I is the most powerful being. Anyone less powerful than him is a subject: a member of the People. Following that logic, Seti I gets his power from the people, because the gods are less powerful than Seti I.

Is that statement true?  

submitted by Gared
(January 1, 2017 - 12:12 pm)

How do you know that Seti I is the most powerful? Has he decreed it himself? If so, I wouldn't trust him. People often have misguided views of their power. Maybe the gods are the most powerful, because power really does come in the form of being able to use yourself to affect others.

So the statement might be false.

submitted by Applejaguar, age !!, New York
(January 2, 2017 - 10:21 am)

Well, actaually, the statement could be:

X is most powerful, anyone less powerful than X=Y. X gets power from Z, but Z must be less powerful, so X gets power from Y.

This was just a random example of names and places. 

submitted by Gared
(January 2, 2017 - 11:36 am)

Oh, I get it. I was being to specific and human-ish

So now I think the statement is true.

I'm slightly embarassed.

submitted by Applejaguar, age !!, New York
(January 3, 2017 - 3:32 pm)

ACK TYPO

It should be "too specific," not "to specific"

submitted by Applejaguar, age !!, Correcting
(January 3, 2017 - 7:38 pm)

All Pharaohs are considered to be living gods, but the rest of the other gods combined are probably more powerful than Seti I alone. Remember that the gods control most aspects of life and death, whereas Seti I (or any Pharaoh) only controls his/her kingdom.

submitted by Scylla
(January 2, 2017 - 12:40 pm)

Can I post a question of slightly philisophical gibberish?

submitted by Pepper Star
(January 2, 2017 - 12:54 pm)

Hmm. I have two thoughts from this, two different possibilities. 

1. Seti gets his power from the gods. Yet no being is no powerful than him. So he gets his power from the people. In a way, that makes the people have much power, so in a way the people are more powerful.

2. Or, perhaps the gods and Seti are not even comparable. Seti is the most powerful being....not counting the gods. Why to counting the gods? Because they have differences that make them not able to compare. Maybe we can't figure out what that difference is but maybe it exists.

3. Oops I have a third thought now...the gods and the people are actually MORE powerful than Seti, while at the same time, he is still the most powerful being. The single most powerful being. If you put every being on a line and picked the most powerful, it would be him. HOWEVER, although no single being is more powerful than him, the COLLECTOVE power may be greater, because the collective power includes the GODS who gave him the power. So the combined power is greater than the single power. 

4. A fourth thought. Perhaps the gods are LESS powerful because they GAVE their power to Seti. They were more powerful before them, but what if their power is not kept? What if once hey gave him his power, they weakened? That would make sense.

 

Hmmmm. What do you guys think? Which of these four makes the most sense? Which is the most probable idea?

submitted by Owlgirl
(January 2, 2017 - 2:45 pm)

Hmmm... Your logic makes sense in all these scenarios. I do believe number three would be the most likely. I also still believe his "sense of power" is all in Seti I's head. Would that make sense, as well? Because after all, power is defined by humans, therefore the term of it doesn't really exist, only the power itself. 

submitted by Ashlee G., age 15, The Future
(January 3, 2017 - 7:38 pm)

No, because the gods aren't in Egypt.

submitted by Bibliophile
(January 3, 2017 - 6:51 pm)

Don't all kings get their power from the people? Without the people, kings would be powerless. So this statement is true, because, like all kings, Seti I's power comes from his people.

submitted by Cockleburr
(January 3, 2017 - 11:25 pm)

Exactly. But I am confused as to why a few CBers are saying "the gods aren't in Egypt". Can someone please explain, I am confused on this. If they are Egyptian gods, wouldn't they be in Egypt? Maybe I just didn't read the statement correctly.

submitted by Ashlee G., age 15, The Future
(January 4, 2017 - 12:55 am)

I don't think the logic thingie says that the gods are Egyptian, and even if they are, they could be living outside of Egypt too. The puzzle says that no one in Egypt is stronger than the king, so if the gods aren't in Egypt, they can be more powerful than the king.

That's my train of thought, anyway. 

submitted by Bibliophile
(January 4, 2017 - 4:50 pm)

Oooohhhh, that gives it a whole new layer! I suppose you have to first know what kind of gods we are talking about. Are they omnipresent beings, or deities with a certain sacred site, like Mount Olympus? Except, the Egyptian Mount Olympus. Or the French one. 

submitted by Cockleburr
(January 4, 2017 - 10:25 pm)