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Oh, come on, I can't really be the only My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic fan on the Chatterbox, right?  

Well, I'm going to hope no and ask two clichéd questions:

1. Best pony?

2. Thoughts on Equestria Girls? 

submitted by Fantasy Quill
(May 19, 2013 - 10:23 pm)

1. Tied between Twilight Sparkle, Fluttershy, and Luna, although Discord is my favorite character in the series

2.  I think it looks really cliched and uninteresting. In particular, romance is not something I think FiM needs at all.

What are your opinions?

I'm curious about what everyone thinks of (MAJOR SPOILER FOR MAGICAL MYSTERY CURE IF YOU HAVEN'T WATCHED IT YET) Twilicorn. I think it could be a really good thing, although I also think it's hard to tell from just one episodes, and we'll have to see.

submitted by Ima
(May 19, 2013 - 11:25 pm)

1.  I love Luna, too! I'm most like Twilight Sparkle, though.

2. Yeah, mostly. The character designs are annoying (WHY IS RAINBOW DASH WEARING A PINK SKIRT!?), the whole thing where their skin is technicolor is weird as well, and ugh they look like they escaped from a mental hospital in Littlest Pet Shop. The trailer is basically a cliche montage, and I've never liked works of fiction set in high schools. 

But I'm going to see it anyway. With my friends, so that we can laugh at it. And who knows, we may be surprised. I want to give it a chance.

Twilicorn: I was really surprised when I found out, but this doesn't really bother me. If they do it properly (and so far I think they have been) then  it could lead to some really interesting things. I really have no problem with the concept of Twilicorn.

Also, Discord is awesome, and Return of Harmony is one of my favorite episodes. I didn't really like Keep Calm and Flutter on that much... 

submitted by Tiffany W.
(May 20, 2013 - 4:46 pm)

Top!

submitted by Ima
(May 20, 2013 - 9:38 am)

I don't particularly like it, although we have it on Netflix and my sister makes us watch The Wedding, both parts, ALL. THE. TIME.

1. My favorite is Rainbow Dash. They're all either too girly, weak, softies, you know. Althouh Luna's pretty coo, too. 

2. What do you mean by "girls?" Don't you mean "ponies?" If you do, I'd have to say what I said for the others: too girly. The romance is weird, and I totally agree that it doesn't fit in at all, except in Rarity's case, it's inevitable, I guess. The whole "morals on friendship" is waaaay too cheesy for this bad-guy slaughtering gal, but I can see why dreamy young girls might like it. 

submitted by Blackberry E., age 13
(May 20, 2013 - 3:11 pm)

Equestria Girls isn't the show, it's a movie coming out in June in which the ponies turn human. 

Girly, weak softies? Oh, I see, like Applejack. </sarcasm>

I'm sorry, but I'll have to disagree with you on that. Fluttershy and Rarity are 'girly' in a conventional way, but they both have things they care about, and they WILL stand up for what they think is right if they need to. (Ever seen 'Dragonshy'?) I wouldn't call the rest of them girly, either. Besides, the concept of 'girliness' is rather sexist in general; it's bad when ALL the girls in fiction are like this, but the fact that they're all different is a major part of the reason the show (and Lauren Faust) is awesome.

And also, you said you've see A Canterlot Wedding a lot, but then why re you complaining about lack of bad-guy slaughtering? HELLO? CHANGELINGS?

(And also Discord and Sombra and a manticore and a dragon and Trixie and stuff.)

But, you know, CHANGELINGS.

Sorry if I sounded rude or overly passionate. I like refuting things, and I'm not trying to get you to like the show, I swear.

submitted by FantasyQuill
(May 20, 2013 - 5:00 pm)

Well, none of the villains are confirmed to actually die. I'm hoping that's not what Blackberry meant, though, because the idea that killing your enemies is always the best way to defeat them is... really silly and kind of disturbing.

submitted by Ima
(May 20, 2013 - 10:29 pm)

Also, I'd like to mention that in the actual show, there isn't actually any romance involving the main cast. I mean, Spike has a crush on Rarity, but that hasn't gotten anywhere and probably never will (I hope). And in "The Best Night Ever," Rarity wants to get together with Prince Blueblood, but that does not work out at all (he turns out to be a total snob). Anyway, I certainly don't think that romance is inevitable. As I touched on in my earlier post, Rarity isn't primarily interested in clothes because she wants to get the stallions' attention; she's interested in it mainly as an artist. At one point, she even sang a song that was based on "Putting It Together" from the (brilliant) musical Sunday in the Park with George, which was originally about sculpture.

(Also, I wrote my other post before reading this one, so I may have said things like, "Remember this episode?" without realizing that you probably haven't seen it. Sorry about that.) 

submitted by Ima
(May 20, 2013 - 9:56 pm)

I have some friends who like it. 

submitted by Lexi
(May 20, 2013 - 4:27 pm)

Aaah! No! 

There are fan girls at my school trying to turn me into a brony. I'm not a brony! 

 

submitted by Red, age 13, Hiding from MLP FG
(May 20, 2013 - 5:47 pm)

That's fine; you don't have to hide from us here. :) We're not going to judge you if you don't like the show. I do hope you'll do others the same favor, though; some people at my school seem to think that there's something wrong with older kids liking it, especially males. I think that's ridiculous; people can like what they want. Have you at least seen an episode, though? Because I know it sounds saccharine and boring, but I thought it did, too, before actually seeing it, and now I.. well, I just wrote a 500-word essay defending two of the characters' status as potential role models for girls. I don't think I need to say much more than that.

submitted by Ima
(May 20, 2013 - 10:06 pm)

Ah, well. Turn into humans?! They have really taken this too far.... I really think that Fluttershy and Rarity set bad examples for girls..and even about girls. I've met people in real life like them, and let me tell you, they are not my style of friends. I'm more of a "some girly sense, maybe a little, but can pick up a gun and use it to kill someone without hesitiation." As you will sooner or later find out about me.

submitted by Blackberry E., age 13
(May 20, 2013 - 6:33 pm)

Really? I don't agree. I'm not into clothes and stuff myself, but I think there's nothing wrong with someone else being so provided a) They don't look down on others with different interests or try to force them on anyone else, b) it's because they're actually interested in it, as opposed to just wanting the social status that might come with it. Rarity (I'll get to Fluttershy afterward) fits those criteria well, for the most part--she did get into the popularity trap at one point, but she realized that true friends respect you for who you are, not how you dress or act--but she's still a designer, because that's what she enjoys and what she's good at. Also, she's quite capable of holding her own if need be--remember the Diamond Dogs episode? Spike had her pegged as a damsel in distress, but it was shown that girliness does not equate to weakness, which is important.

That being said, if you take a casual scan of TV shows aimed at girls these days, it seems like nearly all the major characters are preoccupied with fashion and boys. That is a problem, because obviously, not all girls are like that, and the rest of us deserve equal representation. Personally, though, I thought that MLP:FiM did a great job of giving the mane cast a whole variety of personalities and interests, and each of them is celebrated. Rarity's interest in fashion is not presented as any more or less valid than Rainbow Dash's athletics or Twilight's books. Each pony has their own special talent to contribute, and each is important and worthwhile for that specific pony to be doing.

As for Fluttershy... I'm actually not clear as to what you think makes her a bad role model. My guess would be her timidness--but the thing about that is that it's presented as a character flaw. It's improving, too--in the Iron Will episode, it's made clear that it's important for her to realize she can stand up for herself while still being herself. She still has trouble, but she's working on it. And she is brave in her own way; she'll do anything to protect her friends. She just has to gain the confidence to apply this to herself--but again, she's learning. If the characters didn't have flaws, then the show would be boring. And despite what she might think, she has some really important positive characteristics. She is compassionate and loyal and willing to forgive.

Basically, I think it all comes down to something Lauren Faust, who created the mane six, has said multiple times: There is more than one way to be a girl. This is an idea that has influenced her impact on the show (which was significant; I mean, like I said, she created the mane six) in a lot of ways, and that might account for a lot of what makes MLP:FiM different from so many girls' shows. It's presented as perfectly okay for a girl to be quiet and shy or have an interest in clothes, but it's shown that it's equally okay to be loud and brash and not pay any attention whatsoever to fashion. Everypony is different; the important thing is that everypony find their own special talent and use it--although it's also okay if this takes a little while.

submitted by Ima
(May 20, 2013 - 9:38 pm)

You just said everything I wanted to say. 

Eloquently

submitted by FantasyQuill
(May 21, 2013 - 5:20 pm)

To quote Hank Green, "I don't have a favorite pony"... because I don't watch it.

submitted by Gollum
(May 20, 2013 - 7:39 pm)

I supopse you're right, Ima. I guess it's just personal likes. And don't worry about the episode referrences. I've watched every single episode at least a hundred times each. I knew what you were talking about exactly.

submitted by Blackberry E., age 13
(May 21, 2013 - 9:26 am)