DEBATE THREAD!!!!

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DEBATE THREAD!!!!

DEBATE THREAD!!!!!!!!!!

Yo humans!!!!!  Sorry I havnt been around much.  busy busy busy...

Anyways I'm starting a debate thread where we can debate over problems solutions and such.  

Since I am the creator of this thread I and only I will pick out the questions.  

When we surmise we are at the end of a discusion I shall pick out a new question for us to debate over!!!!!!!!

FIRST QUESTION!!!!!!

*drum role please...

SHOULD PLUTO BE CONSIDERED A PLANET?  WHY OR WHY NOT??????????

So there you are, I'll wait for this to pop up before I state my theories.  ;-) 

submitted by Windswift
(September 11, 2016 - 7:50 pm)

True, but Dogs CAN adapt to the wild. You gave no consideration to the breed of dog, and how there are more types of dogs, and many types of dogs could survive in the wild. Dogs, when are in houses, DO need owners to pick up after them and play--but that's because they aren't in the wild.

Also, you  said--  In books, it's usually the dog who gets sick or old and dies, like in Wonder. But cats don't. Crookshanks? Healthy as ever! And they are tough! In Plain Kate, *Spoiler Alert* Taggle dies, but does so heroicaly, and at the end still comes back to life and lives, because cats just battle on bravely. Something as trivial as death could never stop him!*Spoiler Ends* And his siblings, Raggle and Bone? Kings and Queens of the cats! All three survived against all odds. Bet a dog couldn't do that, huh? As for real life, the percentage of sick dogs with rabies and stuff like that are much more than cats, even wild cats and wild dogs. 

Yeah, I get that--but those are books....and both wild cats and wild dogs depend on the same sort of thing. Are you just picking Cats because you favor them over dogs? I like both dogs and cats, and am going from a neutral perspective, not choosing either over favor, but because they're better equipped. I think they both have about equal chances though. And yes, the Coyote story is true. 

submitted by Icy , age 12!!!, The Forest
(September 20, 2016 - 12:53 pm)

I guess I just favor cats over dogs... I'm not that experienced with debating. But how does the coyote story prove that dogs are better to survive in the wild than cats?

Rilla says tdye. Tye dye? You want to tye dye your T-shirts now? 

submitted by Alexandra
(September 21, 2016 - 6:31 pm)

Whoops, I was getting to that. I must've entered the CAPTCHA too early...

The point is, Coyotes are extremely similar to dogs. And they survive in the wild in a pack. Dogs sometimes stick together with other wild dogs. 

That wounded Coyote? A few months later, it's still alive. Dogs are more resilient. 

But Cats would be great in the wild too.

Laughing I just think dogs would be slightly better. 

submitted by Icy , age 12 , The Forest
(September 22, 2016 - 9:33 am)

Although I maybe might agree that cats are better adapted to survive in the wild, I will argue for the dogs because dogs are the best.

1. Who says dogs can't hunt? Just because they don't hunt in the same way that cats do doesn't mean that they aren't good at it. My dog, when she was a puppy, used to (sadly) eat pigeons until we made her stop. Dogs have existed longer than they have been domesticated by humans. They didn't rely on humans then, and wild dogs don't either. A pack of wolves can take down a moose. Can a cat? I think not. Dogs know how to work together to accomplish something bigger. A cat can catch a squirrel or a bird. And maybe needing more love is a good thing. A dog loves you back no matter what. Wolves live in packs. They share prey. They can defend each other. Who is going to protect a lone cat in the wild when the need arises? Who is going to catch it's prey when it's hurt?

2. You don't need to be terribly agile or good at climbing trees to survive. Humans are extremely clumsy, but also the most intelligent and therefore the best at adapting. There are other ways to hunt. The hyena, for example (I know, they aren't dogs, it's just an example,) is able to run for a really long time, long enough for it to completely exhaust it's prey and kill it. Hyenas aren't exacty graceful now, are they? Dogs are much stronger than cats, and (I would assume) better accustomed to running long distances. As for the warriors series, you honestly can't compare a work of complete fiction to this. If I remember correctly, the cats were terrified of dogs. The dogs were portrayed as stupid, evil bloodthirsty monsters who hated cats. Seriously? Dogs get along fine with cats. They can be friends. And it hasn't ever been proven (to my knowledge) which species is more intelligent. And cats, as you said, are much lonlier creatures. Except for maybe a pride of lions, cats don't normally live in large groups. House cats (even if they do live in the wild) definitely don't. I wouldn't exactly call that "realistic."

3. I don't think I have enough information to argue about the disease rate, but if you were to compare things to warriors, I also seem to remember cats constantly getting sick and dying of greencough. My dog is almost never sick, unless you want to say something about cancer, which I would rather not talk about. Their lifespan I will not argue, that is true. But seriously? You can't compare real life to dogs dying in books. Authors kill dogs because the dogs are brave and beloved and because authors like to upset people for no reason. Crookshanks didn't die because there was no reason for him to. He wasn't even that important. Also nearly everyone hated him. And do cats revive from the dead in real life??? Wonder is realistic fiction. Dogs don't come back to life in realistic fiction. And how many books (besides warriors) are about a brave, beloved cat? I can think of many books about brave dogs, many of which having died in a brave way. What about Lassie? What about Old Yeller? Are cats trained to sniff out cancer and rescue people from mountains? Ok nevermind that was off topic. Forget that. Books and movies where the dog dies are famous for being sad. Have you ever heard someone talk about a sad book where the cat dies??? Authors only kill them because authors like to bring sorrow into our lives and make their characters deal with greif so that they can learn a lesson.

Ok. That took a while. I'm very sorry if that came acrross as mean, I really don't mean it to. No pun intended ;)

Also, congratulations to me because this was probably the longest post I've ever posted on the cb. 

submitted by The Riddler, age 843.946, Here
(September 22, 2016 - 6:52 pm)

I'm rooting for dogs, but doesn't the little that cats get for food count? Like, a squirrel and, say, four birds a day? Can't they live on that, and dogs, too, don't really need to eat extra. But I'm sure, to the cat or dog, it makes all the difference. :-) 

submitted by Icy, age 12, The Forest
(September 23, 2016 - 9:55 am)

Alone cats are but otherwise dogs.

submitted by Tuxedo kitten
(September 20, 2016 - 9:19 am)

Hmm.. I'd have to say that cats are more likely to be eaten. They can't defend themselves as well as dogs can. And that's just my two cents. :)

submitted by Daisy
(September 22, 2016 - 7:41 pm)

cats have whits and they do have strangth NOT as dogs but so what!?!I see ALOT of cats in the wild.Cats can be eatin by cyoties but it depends where dogs are and where cats are!Cats and dogs are AWESOME!!!But I really think that you cant just say that dogs are better than cats and cats are better than dogs!Ither way each one would win!Also it really depends on there spicies.

submitted by Tuxedo kitten
(September 23, 2016 - 8:41 am)

Can we have a new subject?

submitted by .
(September 23, 2016 - 8:57 am)

Can I make up the new topic?

submitted by Alexandra
(September 26, 2016 - 4:00 pm)

Sure, sorry I havnt been on, life has gotten reeeeeeeeally busy.  :( but sure, just make sure its something no one will get really hurt over.  ;)

submitted by Windswift
(September 26, 2016 - 8:17 pm)

Yay! The topic is... Percy Jackson series or Harry Potter series?

submitted by Alexandra
(October 1, 2016 - 11:24 am)

Harry potter for sure!!!!!!! 

Actually I haen't read percy jackson so :P

submitted by Windswift
(October 1, 2016 - 4:19 pm)

Harry Potter! I haven't read Percy Jackson in many years, but from what I remember he really annoyed me. He was such a stereotypical hero - brave, oh so funny, selfless, etc. Although the books were good, they weren't as awesome as Harry Potter.

Urgh. I can't find enough reasons for this. I just liked Harry Potter better. 

submitted by The Riddler
(October 2, 2016 - 4:55 pm)