[SPOILERS] Discussion Thr

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[SPOILERS] Discussion Thr

[SPOILERS] Discussion Thread for the story we're planning!

If you're not Hex or Flamarestii and don't want spoilers on our story, please don't read this thread!

Anyway, we can plan and discuss more here! 

submitted by Jaybells@Hex&Flame, age Obscure, Lost in the Universe
(February 15, 2022 - 8:42 am)

Sounds fun, lot's of great ideas!  

submitted by Jay@Flamie
(March 4, 2022 - 6:45 pm)

Ok, here's the map more fleshed-out, if y'all are fine with it. Obviously, it's not finished by any means, and everything's still completely open for discussion/suggestion! :) 

 

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submitted by Jaybells, Here with Map 1.2
(March 6, 2022 - 8:58 am)

Awesome! Much better than anything I could do!

submitted by Flamie
(March 6, 2022 - 9:44 am)

Lol yes I could never do that.

One thing—the mountains seem small in comparisin to the rivers. Is that on purpose? 

submitted by Hex
(March 7, 2022 - 2:16 pm)

Nope, I was just having a hard time w/ scale... :/

They're honestly more of placeholders at this point so we can get started with a vague idea. :) 

submitted by Jaybells
(March 7, 2022 - 4:25 pm)

Makes sense :) just checking.

submitted by Hex
(March 7, 2022 - 10:24 pm)

Looks so good! Maybe mark down an oasis/places near the river where people live.

Another cool concept is a place of refuge. For example, there is one on Hawaii, Big Island. Basically, people who had commited crimes could get to the place of refuge and be redeemed by priests/live safely there. 

Also, do tribes live above/below ground? Or underwater? 

submitted by Eclipse, Mainframe Database
(March 7, 2022 - 2:30 pm)

- So far, we only have plans for tribes to live beneath the ground (like in a network of underground caves), and above the ground in a traditional civilization-style but if you have any other ideas, we'd love to hear them! 

- Running with that theme, might we consider different types of secretive groups in different places, for instance in the desert, there's the underground-tribe(s), around islands there are underwater groups/sentient sealife, and in the mountainous regions there are floating cities, or something like that?

- I like the idea of a sanctuary-like place and the potential political tension that could come from that... That's something I think I'll leave up to you to plan-out more thoroughly, since it's your idea, though. Of course, unless you'd rather leave it up to one of the others.

- I'm not entirely sure where to set down the settlements on the map yet, but I’ll continue doing some research to get that figured out ASAP. If y'all have any suggestions, please share!

submitted by Jaybells@Eclipse
(March 7, 2022 - 4:22 pm)

Just thinking, I really want a betrayal scene... 

(It's fine if it's later on and not super important to the plot, but I really want to get all that out of my system :)))))) 

submitted by Jaybells
(March 7, 2022 - 4:26 pm)

Mwahahahahah. A betrayal scene would definitely suit my mood right now- I feel like planning drastic things & have no clue why

submitted by Flamie
(March 7, 2022 - 6:22 pm)

I love betrayal...

submitted by Hex
(March 7, 2022 - 10:25 pm)

:0

*suspiciously(but jokingly) side-eyes* 

Lol sometimes you just need that sting of angst~  

submitted by Jaybells, 0_0
(March 8, 2022 - 5:48 am)

Ok, so I've been considering the pronouns for Sarai's group, and I think "sa" would work. (As a refresher, we sorta got into a mess on the Prompt Thread on what pronouns to use, since they aren't human, and instead more spirit-based, which necessitates a different method of coming into being...) "Sa" is literally just a made-up one for our convenience, and is more of a descriptor than true pronoun, but eh... Tell me if you have any other ideas and we'll see if this sticks. 

As for other new stuff: Sarai technically uses a different, lost language that mostly only the spirits use now, as opposed to the Central Sands'(I'm changing the phrase to this from "Central Desert" in reference to the main place we'll be/we've been focusing on for the sake of clearing up confusion and because I think it sounds slightly more creative/natural) main/state language, but as an immortal spirit'y thing, sa has also come to understand the Cental Sands' Speak(or CSS?).

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For clarity and organization, here's a list! (The blanks are not yet decided, the superscripts indicate a note/point of contention/discussion at the bottom).

> Main Setting(so far/at the moment): Central Sands ____¹

> Main/official Language: Central Sands' Speak²

> # of characters(so far): 4

> #1, Name: Serai

>> Direct pronouns: sa; Indirect: san; Possessive: sars (Here he/she/etc. is = Here sa is; It's for him/her/etc. = It's for san; That is his/hers/etc. = That is sars). [We may want to put it in italics to prevent confusion: sa, san, sars /etc.]

>> Traits: Physical - Cat-like, dark colouration, a spirit(can influence the physical, but not be injured under ordinary circumstances with physical force/objects); Personality - Snide, typically lazy, self-centred, mischevious, morally ambiguous, chaotic-nuetral.

> #2 Name: 

> #3 Name:

> #4 Name:

And so on with Flamarestii's characters, which I don't have a great feel for and don't want to misinterpret, so she can catagorize them if she wants. :) 

¹ = Something like "Kingdom" for this blank-space, except I want to explore gender roles and don't want to be tied down by Earth's historically patriarchal past(the term "King" suggests a male automatically in the role of authority, which is why I'd prefer not to use "kingdom"). I'm thinking the smartest/most skilled would normally be appointed as ruler, at least in theory, so we could use a twist of the world "The Wise" as a ruler/"King"-figure, and apply that to "Kingdom." Therefore we'd get something like "Ruled by the Wise One"(but condensed) if we translate in place of "Kingdom", but since we don't have a language yet... Yeah. It'll probably be a while before we get a definitive solution on that.

² = It kinda sounds silly, now that I think about it, but maybe when translated(which is my plan for now) it'll sound much more cool. 

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Also, would you people be comfortable with providing backstories at this point? It doesn't have to be super in-depth, as we can figure that out later, but just something simple like, "He got scratched by a wild cat when he was a toddler and since then has stayed near civilization, with a distain for the wild." or how they met the other characters, or something interesting to write side-stories about later, or as a tool to humanize and become more comfortable with them. Apologies if that's too much, it's just an idea for now. :)

Ok, and I forgot what else I was gonna say, so this is probably enough for now. Tonight I'll try to get some language stuff down and confirmed by you all... Yay!

And if there's anything anyone wants to do in particular, like draw drafts of the archetectural style of the Central Sands' region, write little draft-snippets for the story, refine the map a little more, make suggestions on the details, or anything else, please go ahead! <3

Stay creative, pepple! 

submitted by Jaybells, Lost at Sea
(March 9, 2022 - 10:18 am)

I can't wait for the start of the language! The pronouns sound great- just a clarification, may I use she and him pronouns in some of my writing? I am fine with using sa/san/sars if you are more comfortable with it. 

I agree that the past was dominated by patriarchs far too much, and we need a neutral term. The idea of rulers claiming the throne because of their own intellect is a nice concept. 

And backstories- I LOVE backstories! Oh, the rabbit trails I get lost following when I'm writing . . . I've been busy this week, but hopefully next week I can start working on some of this stuff!

Over and out, and read you soon! 

 

submitted by Flamarestii
(March 10, 2022 - 1:42 pm)

- Oh, that's absolutely fine! Sarai isn't human, which is why sa uses the pronouns sa does (her 'species' doesn't reproduce the same, and thus doesn't have humanistic gender roles). However, for human/beings with a similar method of reproduction/culture of more typically binary genders can definitely still be referred to as female/male, she/her, etc. if it works with their characterization!

- I'm thinking out using other different pronouns for new groups that are introduced later on, since animals/different 'species' don't have to function the same way as they do on earth, and we can really experiment in some cases. That being said, humans/human-like civilizations may have a similar cultural development/reaction to binary reproductive bodies, or be much more Queer-inclusive(of which their were and are several, even on Earth), depending on what y’all think. (Speaking of Queer-inclusivity, I've heard that thousands of years ago, there were cultures who had the typical male/female roles, but then accepted non-binary people, and even exhausted them as slightly superior being who were supposedly closer to the gods... Maybe we can incorporate that idea in in some way!)

- Omagoodness, I knowwwww! It is... Aghhhh. Difficult to stay focused once you start with the side-stories, back-stories, what-if's and alternate timelines... Something like WorldAnvil might help organise that kind of thing, but I'm afraid it won't do much for our poor, overactive story-teller brains...

- Ooh, and I was sorta inspired in the middle of reading your opinions on the rulers titles... So what if there was an all-encompassing term in our language that sorta meant "strong" with a grain of salt. Like, not necessarily as in "might" which would be physical strength, but as a term to describe a generally skilled and/or outstanding person. It could refer to a specific skillset, or being well-rounded; to physical strength or skills, or mental fortitude or emotional intelligence, or just generous or whatever. Good--ability/justification to rule, I guess. Then they could be referred to as their specific title, in addition to "strong", like instead of Empress Catherine the Great, "The strong-one, Catherine the Generous" or however they were perceived, ya know?

submitted by Jaybells, Lost in Thought
(March 10, 2022 - 5:42 pm)