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Chatterbox: Down to Earth

Please read this!

Please read this!

Okay. I don't like when other people enter these kinds of comments, but I think something needs to be said.

The Chatterbox is beginning to creak at the seams. It's still a ways away from falling apart, but that event is coming. New joiners scarcely ever come back, and the subject-pages are clogged and seem to be decaying a little. Why?

Not because of the Politics Thread. Not because of the petty 'wars' that take place every now and again. Not because of differences in views.

It is, in my mind, a result of the new in-flow of personal threads that has been going on for a bit now. This is a very touchy and sensitive subject, and I don't know if I'm really authorized to speak on it, and the Admins shouldn't publish it if it hurts the community. All right.

By personal threads, I mean those threads people start in which they talk about the problems they are having in their lives.

Now let me get one thing straight-- I wholey understand why these threads are made. I get why people want to share their sad experiences with folk they like, but don't really know in real life and will probably never meet. It's not difficult or embarassing to empty your troubles out into the cyber-ears of people you will never see, but who like you and will be happy to condole, empathize, and sympathize with, and encourage, you. With 'real' people, you have to calculate with your real relationships with those people, and also face losing their respect or regard or friendship, or just the embarassment and general discomfort of discussing things like this with them.  I get all of this.

But I think that is not what the Chatterbox is for. It is for writing and reading and for sharing the love of these things, and for the fellowship of people like oneself in a safe, comfortable and free environment. It is the best site for this purpose that I have ever seen. Kids of all ages can feel welcome here, and can interact with others without being condescended to or looked down upon. Or that was how it used to be.  When I first joined, things were brighter and busier. Now they seem to be on the way to stagnation.

People, especially those who are quite young, come here to be happy. They do not come to be battered with everyone's emotional and often 'mature' problems. These problems clog up the site and make especially younger prospective joiners feel unwelcome. It takes from the reading-and-writing aspect of the site, and even occasionally challenges the safety aspect, too.

I know that this is asking a lot, but-- could people perhaps find another place to share their problems? I am aware that this is a readily available place where you stand little danger of being ridiculed or disregarded, where comfort and encouragement is always available, and where you can at last relieve yourself a little of some of the burdens of your life. But that just isn't what the Chatterbox is for.

I'd also remind everyone that, although the CBers here will offer advice, sympathy, and words of cheer there is little we can actually DO for you. I would advise you to take courage and look to the 'real' people in your life, who can really help you. It does no one any good for someone to neglect their relationships wth the people they meet every day, and to pour themselves out into people they will never meet.

Please understand that I am not angry with anyone, that I am in no way attempting to offend or hurt anyone, and that I'm not trying to be a goody-goody. I'm truly sorry if I have caused any damage. Please don't anyone take this wrong!  And Admins, if this thread is publication-appropriate, please give it a chance! 'Bye! :) 

 

Thank you for your thoughtful comment, Esthelle. There are still plenty of writing and book threads on Chatterbox, but let's see if others agree that there are too many personal problem threads.

Admin

submitted by Esthelle (Es-thel-ay, age Anonymous, Rivendell (I wish) ;)
(June 11, 2016 - 3:20 pm)

I agree! I sympathize with anyone with problems, but when I come to the Chatterbox I want to have fun. Maybe we could figure out a particular Chatterbox (Like Inkwell, Down to Earth, Blab about books, Pudding's Place, or Chirp at Cricket) to list this sort of thing. Thanks for listening.

submitted by Elmodaisy
(June 11, 2016 - 4:22 pm)

But there is a Chatterbox section to put this kind of stuff! It's called Down to Earth.

submitted by Mei-xue (May-shreh) , Fairyland
(June 11, 2016 - 8:01 pm)

Peep!! YASS Esthelle I entirely agree! Peep!!

submitted by A Little Birdie
(June 11, 2016 - 7:20 pm)

I'm glad you agree! Thank you, Elmodaisy and A Little Birdie ;) !!! And thank you truly, Admin, for your support. :) :) :)

And I like your idea, Elmodaisy. Perhaps, if people don't like the idea of shutting down the personal-inflow completely, we could put together one thread for people to out-pour on, and then those who wanted to help them could, and those who didn't want to participate in personal events could just not click on the thread. What does everyone think? 

 

Beginnning a thread with words that identify the theme of the thread would be helpful to people wanting to participate in it and also to those who want to avoid it.

Admin

submitted by Esthelle (Es-thel-ay, age Anonymous, Rivendell (I wish) ;)
(June 11, 2016 - 8:06 pm)

Well said, Esthelle. And I must say, I agree. Have you noticed that everything seems to be slowing down? And I think you're right about the increasing number of personal threads that keep appearing. Elmodaisy, you make a good point. Maybe if we had a designated area for people to be angry, sad, and upset, we could just stay away from that. Or maybe not. Maybe, as you said, we could make a separate thread for life problems. I love that the CB is a safe, creative environment, and I would love it to stay that way. I hope we can find a peaceful solution for this, so that we can continue to share ideas and become good writers. 

submitted by Shadowmoon
(June 11, 2016 - 7:40 pm)

I think this will start another war, no offense. 

submitted by MapleSyurp
(June 11, 2016 - 7:48 pm)

No offense taken, Maple Syrup! I understand and appreciate your point. But what if we all just decided that there wasn't going to be a war? I think that everyone should try to settle this in as rational and mature a manner as can be contrived, because that, above many things, is what will save the Chatterbox. If we all choose to be offended or unhappy and begin leaving and complaining and cat-fighting, little is accomplished. If we consider and solve the issue rationally, however, much is repaired. It is possible that not everyone will get what they want, people will have to compromise, etc. But mature people must be willing to make sacrifices. We have to give up our own comfort for the well-being of the generality. 

And thank you for your concern-- we should take everything into account. :) 

submitted by Esthelle (Es-thel-ay, age Anonymous, Rivendell (I wish) ;)
(June 11, 2016 - 9:00 pm)

I agree with you, Esthelle, and I thank you for figuring this out. I was on the same train of thought...what's going on? I couldn't put my finger on it. But you named it.

However, I think this is something WE have to become aware of, not something the Admins should enforce.  

And you did phrase that all in a proper way. 

submitted by Owlgirl
(June 11, 2016 - 8:26 pm)

FIRST OFF: Don't you guys turn this into a war because of my comment! 

I would like to agree with you, but I highly disagree with you. You guys are my only emotional support. I wish I didn't need you guys, but I do. Also, Down to Earth has always been a place of emotional support, and I think the other threads should be in Pudding's Place, or Chirp at Cricket to save the least. 

Really, if you want to post something that doesn't relate to the real world, post it in the other threads! You're suppose to 'talk about the world around you' on Down To Earth!

Also, cbers ARE real people! Even if they are on another computer, that doesn't make them any less real! And many people are more friendly on here, especially because of the Admins. You guys make me feel a whole lot better when you comfort me.

Sorry if I sound offended.  

submitted by Danie
(June 11, 2016 - 8:48 pm)

Agreed. Down to Earth has always been a place to share emotional problems and other assorted issues. If you don't like that, ignore it and move on. The other five "departments" of the CB seen perfectly normal to me, and I don't see any conflict spreading -- even from the politics thread -- outside of DtE, so you shouldn't have a problem engaging with people in the other five sections instead. I really don't see what the big deal is.

submitted by
(June 12, 2016 - 4:46 am)

But if someone does make another thread about their life problems, I think we should definitely not name them specifically or on their thread tell them anything rude, because they don't deserve that. And that's not who we are, or what we stand for.

submitted by Owlgirl
(June 11, 2016 - 9:32 pm)

Agreed, Esthelle!

I think that people's lives are really crazy now, so that's why this is happening. I do think we should cut down on it, because the newer people are probably leaving so soon because they go to DtE, and then they say "AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I didn't know that this website was like all the rest!"

And then they quit. We should infuse DtE with more of the fun that it had!

submitted by Cho Chang
(June 12, 2016 - 5:56 am)

It's always been part of the CB to discuss emotional problems. 

submitted by S.E.
(June 12, 2016 - 7:25 am)

Agreed! But I think we need to cut down on the negativity just a bit. We need to protect the younger CBers from the evils of the world until they're old enough to understand.

submitted by Cho Chang
(June 12, 2016 - 12:16 pm)

Guys. Why don't we keep the emotional threads, and just add more 'normal' threads? This seems like the best solution to me.

submitted by CaykeTheCook
(June 12, 2016 - 12:53 pm)